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Tuesday, June 12, 2007

If Janet Reno hasn't sickened you enough already...

Got this off salon:

Reno Blocks Palestinian's Release in Florida
Updated 12:21 PM ET December 12, 2000

BRADENTON, Fla. (Reuters) - U.S. Attorney General Janet Reno blocked on Tuesday the release of a Palestinian
man who has been jailed in Florida for more than three years on secret evidence alleging he is a terrorist, immigration
officials said.

Mazen Al-Najjar's wife, three children, relatives and friends had gone to the U.S. Immigration and Naturalization
Service (INS) detention center in Bradenton on Tuesday morning with an $8,000 check and were waiting to post his
bail when Reno issued the order blocking his release.

No charges have ever been filed against Al-Najjar.

Immigration Judge R. Kevin McHugh had ordered Al-Najjar's release on Dec. 6, but an INS appeal board issued a
stay the same day. The panel lifted its stay on Monday and Al-Najjar's release was set for Tuesday. Reno's order
remains in effect at least until Friday.

"We're very disappointed. They've been fighting this every step of the way," said Sami Al-Arian, Al-Najjar's
brother-in-law.

Al-Najjar, 43, has been jailed since May 1997. He was teaching Arabic at the University of South Florida in Tampa
when his visa expired in 1997. He was ordered deported, then jailed without being charge after INS attorneys
presented secret evidence to McHugh which they said proved Al-Najjar had ties to the Syrian-based Palestinian
Islamic Jihad.

In addition to the secret evidence, the INS has cited Al-Najjar's membership in the World and Islamic Studies
Enterprise, a Tampa think tank. Another member of that group became head of the Palestinian Islamic Jihad in 1995.

Al-Najjar has denied having any involvement with terrorists and his case has been championed by civil rights groups.

McHugh has said previously the evidence presented in public did not prove the INS' charges. Last week, he said
Al-Najjar should be freed on bail because the summary of the secret evidence given to Al-Najjar by the INS was
insufficient to let him defend himself. Al-Najjar and his wife, who is also Palestinian, came to the United States 20
years ago from the Gaza Strip, which was then under Israeli occupation but is now part of the territory controlled by
the Palestinian Authority. Their three children were born in the United States.

Even if Al-Najjar is freed, he and wife face deportation hearings but they said they have no country to go to.

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What Janet is saying, in so many words, is:

"We're just going to keep you in jail because we feel like it, and we can. We haven't brought you to trial or even charged you in the three years we've kept you in prison. Hell, we haven't even told you what you've done wrong. We haven't shown you, anyone that could help you, or anyone not involved in our operation against you, for that matter, that we have strong evidence against you. But we'll just keep you in the ol' lock-me-up anyway because we think its best and since you might know some people who might be involved in one of these groups, we guess no one here is really going to give a ****."

What do they mean, "had ties to the Islamic Jihad?" If he were a member (is this even a crime, anyway?), they'd have said that instead. Sounds like he isn't a member, but knows someone who is. Sounds to me like they won't charge him because they can't, because he's done nothing wrong. Sounds to me like the only reason to keep him in prison is to find out what he knows, out of the public eye. And I hope you know what that means.

Who said "Judge a society by how it treats its prisoners?" I forget at the moment, but those words ring true. I'll see you in Hell, Janet.
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...Heil Janet!

/Me thinks Janet will be on a plane out of this country by Jan 20 to somewhere without an extradition treaty...
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u make me sick...

u ppl complain too much about the weather being cold...

yesterday it was -30 celsius....that makes it around -14 to -16 F!!!!!

be happy that u have -3 F weather
u could be here having your fingers frozen off...........damn there goes my last pinky finger..doh

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who's complaining?
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Is that with wind chill?
I know my mom in IL (remember the cold spell that hit CA? Yeah that was her!), says with wind chill, it is -30 at home...
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Originally posted by chosenfool
none is as cold as the winter in my heart...

awww.....


come into IRC... we can warm you up

hehe
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Man, it's freezing here in San Diego. I think it gets down to 50 Degrees F!!!!
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Originally posted by Leon
Man, it's freezing here in San Diego. I think it gets down to 50 Degrees F!!!!


fklasjdhflauihk,nbzsdoifu......damn u!!!!


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Originally posted by crabbie
Is that with wind chill?
I know my mom in IL (remember the cold spell that hit CA? Yeah that was her!), says with wind chill, it is -30 at home...

with out windchill i think...
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-36 F here right now

without wind chill
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damn happy squirrel... where are you? my brother lives in ND and the windchill there was -51 yesterday.
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Originally posted by The Happy Squirrel
-36 F here right now

without wind chill

finally someone who understands coldness..
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Today sucks, when it is hard to breath cause the wind goes right down your throat, it means finals should be canceled!

Yesterday the wind was worse, I'd have to say -40° F
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i never thought of NYC as a warm place to live, but i guess it is. last night on the news the weather guy said it has been about 8degrees below normal this month, but it still isn't that bad.

although, today the wind was WICKED, it blew the siding off a building on my way to work
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before today it was 70 degrees F here
small price to pay for the 110 degree F summers
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bay area has been perfect, i have only needed a jacket when it is raining to keep me dry. it just doesnt get that cold here.
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I live in Wisconsin. Cold and boring. I win.
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Originally posted by K2
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Originally posted by The Happy Squirrel
-36 F here right now

without wind chill

finally someone who understands coldness..

Bubba, i was in Embarras Minnesota the day it hit a record 60 below zero. I understand the coldness!
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Originally posted by LPM
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Originally posted by K2
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Originally posted by The Happy Squirrel
-36 F here right now

without wind chill

finally someone who understands coldness..

Bubba, i was in Embarras Minnesota the day it hit a record 60 below zero. I understand the coldness!


accually it was -67 below without wind chill in Embarass and i was there too
i live bout 20 miles from there


-23 today a bit warmer

[Edited by The Happy Squirrel on 12-12-2000 at 12:15 PM

Mavi forum

Burning Man

I know next year's festival is a long way off, but I'm working on my plans to go already. I was just wondering if anyone's been in the past, is planning to go in the future, or has any other random thoughts/stories about Burning Man.

My plans, by the way, include a 35,000 watt sound system and some of the biggest DJs on the West Coast. Still gotta work on the whole shelter angle, though.

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I remember renots went when he was a fair newbie on this board...
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Originally posted by Ice-9
My plans, by the way, include a 35,000 watt sound system and some of the biggest DJs on the West Coast. Still gotta work on the whole shelter angle, though.

You have a generator that will handle that? Remember, no juice in the desert...

I think you'll be disappointed. From what I've heard (from Renots and others who've been), Burning man is more of an LSD kinda thing and less an Ecstacy kinda thing. People will be stumbling around aimlessly and checking out the art displays and tribal drum gatherings, not dancing to techno. Maybe you'll attract some of the frat-boys and yuppies there trying in vain to understand the experience or just gawking at the hippies, but who wants to attract them? I think you'd do better to save all that ammunition for a better venue.

Or maybe I'm completely off base here. Renots has the first hand experience, so I'll defer my opinions to any advice he may have for you.
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Originally posted by Ice-9
I know next year's festival is a long way off, but I'm working on my plans to go already. I was just wondering if anyone's been in the past, is planning to go in the future, or has any other random thoughts/stories about Burning Man.

My plans, by the way, include a 35,000 watt sound system and some of the biggest DJs on the West Coast. Still gotta work on the whole shelter angle, though.


heck, got room 4 1 more?

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Originally posted by for20
heck, got room 4 1 more?


Well, shut my mouth.
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Probably. Like I said, it's still in the planning phase, so I'm not sure what the line-up/timing is going to be like. I'm working with two guys who work at JK sound, which, for those of you who don't go to concerts or parties in the Bay Area, is one of the biggest sound rental companies in CA. So we're just dragging a monstrous sound system out into the desert, and we've been talking to every DJ we can find to just find out if they're interested. Obviously, we're not trying to pay them, so it's only going to be people who want to do it because it's Burning Man. I don't know how many will actually end up being there, but we've heard interest from a bunch of people.
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"understand" the experience?

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Burning Man is nothing like a "typical rave" but is still very cool. Its like a mix between a rave and a greatful dead concert(more hippies and LSD). Remember its only as cool as you make it so, participate and open your mind to different things.

Oh, yeah BRING A COUPLE OF CAMERAS, the stuff you see there is sooo cool.


BURN BABY BURN!
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I hear ya. We're not trying to make it a rave, just share what we love to do with anybody who cares to listen. And I plan on checking out what everybody else is up to while I'm there. It should be quite an experience.

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It aint over till it's over.......

Help Wanted,

Needed immediately;
A FAT LADY,
Willing to travel to Florida and sing.
The networks are standing by.
(this came from someone in SOUTH AFRICA! How nice to know we the butt of the worlds jokes once again..)

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Yeah.. laugh all they want. I'm not running around outside with a spear trying to get my lunch
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Originally posted by Adisharr
Yeah.. laugh all they want. I'm not running around outside with a spear trying to get my lunch

correct me if i'm wrong, but isn't south africa part of the UK?

like, don't alot of wealthy people live there?

i always have these visions of south africa being a very posh, exotic place.

but i could be wrong.
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Originally posted by Adisharr
Yeah.. laugh all they want. I'm not running around outside with a spear trying to get my lunch

Spectacular American ignorance on display for all to see.

*sigh* and we wonder why they make the jokes...with the laughing, and the ridiculing, and the scratching, and the biting...
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Actually yes and no stylee-while pictures of South africa are lovely to look at, the actual country is a mess-with political uprisings,crime,and a bad economy. The whites who once ruled S.A are now in the minority as far as getting any kind of profitable work over the black and indian residents of the country. We used to travel alot and when I was a kid..due to my fathers job I had been there 4 times.My husband and I had opportunity also to travel there due to his job 5 or 6 times ...We stayed there for 3 months once and trust me-I would rather walk down any street in harlem wearing jewels and furs-While capetown is lovely -it is advised that if you are not familiar with ANY area of south africa and especially if you are a tourist that you do not go out at night without someone who knows the way around-hijackings are frequent and some of the locals are so nasty they will cut your feet off just to steal your shoes..the thieves at this point are really into stealing copper wiring..and will do just about anything to get it..the rape stats are higher than almost any other country in the world and the aids stats are SKY HIGH..while like any other big cities in this world there are those fat cats with bulging wallets-and its true that more than 50 percent of south african residents have maids,housekeepers and gardners-there are numerous pods of people who barely have food to feed themselves. Nice to visit-not nice to live...
ps..while Johannesburg is treacherous..capetown is very geared towards visitors-Places like Durban and Pietermaritzburg are rising metropolises..FILLED with computer related jobs.I must say though-the friends I made while I did stay there are lovely people-just like any you might find in JoeQ Neighborhood and we still keep in contact which is how I get all this USA bashing type emails..they for once are happy to be out of the spotlight of having a bad governmental situation.

[Edited by oblongmelon on 12-11-2000 at 02:09 PM]
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I believe Capetown is one of the few places in the world where rape insurance is sold. As for the cutting of the feet for the shoes, that might be an exaggerration, but I don't doubt that it happened maybe once or twice...
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What can I say - so I'm a geographical moron. Luckily, I don't have to know where it is to cash my paycheck or I would be in deep S***

Also after reading what oblongmelon has to say about the place, I think I'd rather be running with a spear and taking my chances.

I'm also quite sure there are no other ignorant people in the world. Just us.
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arrrgh...silly-its an old south african saying.....grrrrrr, but truth be known..it has happened..cars get hijacked all the time,where people get robbed and killed for their clothes,shoes,wallets.

[Edited by oblongmelon on 12-11-2000 at 03:11 PM]
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Originally posted by styleee
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Originally posted by Adisharr
Yeah.. laugh all they want. I'm not running around outside with a spear trying to get my lunch

correct me if i'm wrong, but isn't south africa part of the UK?

like, don't alot of wealthy people live there?

i always have these visions of south africa being a very posh, exotic place.

but i could be wrong.

It was a Dutch settlement, not English.
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Who cares if we are laughing stocks to the rest of the world. We are far from being a perfect nation and events like this will help us improve. I personally think that they should count all the votes even though I didn't vote for either one of them. One thing I think is hilarious is when they interview some idiot on the street who repeats everything he has heard on the news from other people, except he's such a basket case that he screws it all up. For instance the other day I heard this one toothless bastard talk about "They need to end the election, because we are looking like some third world nation like Russia or Alaska!" What a freakin dip****!

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Originally posted by styleee
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Originally posted by Adisharr
Yeah.. laugh all they want. I'm not running around outside with a spear trying to get my lunch

correct me if i'm wrong, but isn't south africa part of the UK?

like, don't alot of wealthy people live there?

i always have these visions of south africa being a very posh, exotic place.

but i could be wrong.

It was a Dutch settlement, not English.

Dutch by ancestry-but under rule of the Crown..I think it still may be- One of the "home" languages is Afrikaans-of which I am fluent..it's origins are definately dutch and hasn't strayed too much from the original Dutch that it was derived. Unfortunately the Afrikaaners are looked down on by alot of South Africans as being 'peasants'...it's sad.
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Originally posted by Adisharr
What can I say - so I'm a geographical moron. Luckily, I don't have to know where it is to cash my paycheck or I would be in deep S***

Also after reading what oblongmelon has to say about the place, I think I'd rather be running with a spear and taking my chances.

I'm also quite sure there are no other ignorant people in the world. Just us.

You call yourself a geographical moron. Maybe you should post on topics regard geographical issues. Maybe you should post in the topics that have to do with the McDonalds down the street. Or better yet, maybe you should learn about the world around you. Someday you'll realize that it affects you in ways you never knew

Blu
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Originally posted by oblongmelon
Unfortunately the Afrikaaners are looked down on by alot of South Africans as being 'peasants'...it's sad.

typical British smear job...

Mavi forum

Christmas...(ack) problems.......

OK..So we trudged off into the woods to chop down our numerous christmas trees-(which were all frozen solid,trunks buried in two feet of snow)..chop them down-box them off to fit into the damn stands..get them in the house and now that they are in the house they smell like BUCK LURE! (doe piss for anyone that doesn't know what buck lure is..)Lights and ornaments are great-but when your house starts smelling like the backwoods ****ter instead of a carolina pine forest what are ya supposed to do! Lord help me I swear this is the LAST time for real trees....

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don't they have any of those christmas tree places on the side of the highway/ police station/ firehouse/ gas station by you?

that is alot easier then choppin' one down myself

and they usually smell like pine not piss
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I hate all the X-Mas tree vendors on the streets of my neighbohood in Manhattan . . . like it's not already hard enough to walk around on a sidewalk with a ton of people and half-filled with bodegas and fruit stands from markets, now we have to deal with a ton of X-Mas trees. At least we don't have to deal with a million tourists here. I was on 57th street the other night and couldn't walk without stepping on a tourist. I swear, they're like a plague of locusts! I wanted to go on a tourist killing spree just pushing as many of them as possible into the traffic on 5th Avenue . . . hehe
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Hey Butch-go to the Carnegie Deli and get me a pastrami on rye to go would ya? .....that would be the best christmas pressie I can think of right now....*drool*
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Originally posted by Butch
I hate all the X-Mas tree vendors on the streets of my neighbohood in Manhattan . . . like it's not already hard enough to walk around on a sidewalk with a ton of people and half-filled with bodegas and fruit stands from markets, now we have to deal with a ton of X-Mas trees. At least we don't have to deal with a million tourists here. I was on 57th street the other night and couldn't walk without stepping on a tourist. I swear, they're like a plague of locusts! I wanted to go on a tourist killing spree just pushing as many of them as possible into the traffic on 5th Avenue . . . hehe

i work in manhatten too

but my office is all the freak way downtown, literally at the entrance to the holland tunnel. so i don't really see too many holiday tourist/ shoppers moseying around. but last year when i worked uptown a bit i had to deal with 34th street everyday. Nightmare on 34th Street is what the movie should be called!
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oooooo Butch? AND STYLEE? both in the Big Apple? I am getting vibes here people.....

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Happy Holidays from the Democratic party!


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You almost made me piss my pants... ROTFLMAO... You are a real gem sbp. I just love ya!
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Too bad the grinch didnt look like JIMMINY CRICKET-who totally resembles that Lieberman guy..
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You went and spoiled it for me! The Grinch was one of my favorite heroes. Now I will look at him and think about slimey politicians...

That Sucks.


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