Can someone lend me $6,999?

Because I really want this: http://www.impactguns.com/store/product396.html __________________ Don't you know guns are bad Leon ? I mean c'mon naughty guns like that just walk around and kill people all by themselves. That's a no-no you know. [Edited by sbp on 11-28-2000 at 04:19 AM] __________________ You going to go tank hunting with it? __________________ hahahahahahhha no. but, if you find someone to loan you that money, make sure they have double to loan so I can have some too __________________ I would be thrilled to loan you my sister for target practice. __________________ Another idea would be to buy a cheap gun, and then rob the gun store. __________________ You too oblongmelon? __________________ Touche Sbp..and Leon, My uncle, Joey Baggadonuts will loan you one for free and he doesn't even want anything in return. Well maybe a new cement mixer would help appease him as a thankyou gift... __________________ I like it. I want one too. But why go half way, how about this one? http://www.impactguns.com/store/M2HB.html __________________ Maybe I'm a little odd, but having the "Add to cart" button right under the .50 caliber gun just is too weird. Blu __________________ sweeeeet check these out: http://www.maadigriffin.com/ (has an awesome .50 cal, with your choice of 36" - 43" barrels) http://www.serbu.com/ (gotta love the shotgun and the .50 cal) __________________ If I gave you half of the money would that make it partially mine. We could just take turns using it. Cut out the middleman that's me __________________ Damn you evilcyclops! I thought I would be the first funny one and put that gun there!!!!! =0) I want: http://www.impactguns.com/store/M2HB.html http://www.impactguns.com/store/product398.html http://www.impactguns.com/store/product1236.html http://www.impactguns.com/store/product519.html http://www.impactguns.com/store/product912.html http://www.impactguns.com/store/mp5.html (For all you counterstrike junkies like myself!) And that's just because I live in a bad neighborhood.. Shiz.. the 5 year old above me carries a 9mm. Now I can fight back instead of paying the Dr. Bills!!! __________________ amen to fire power __________________ o...a gun.... i thought u wanted that much money so u can pay S&H for the t-shirts ur packing up =)...hehe __________________ Ugh... Don't remind me... __________________ ...because who gnows when they might do this again: http://www.maadigriffin.com/second1030.htm "Stephen, the atf did not have a search warrant, nor did they have a Court order, nor was any due process of law exercised in this incident. They simply appeared with six armed batf agents and took the entire lot. This is government tyranny in action. That brings up the total to over $400,000 worth of parts, kits and inventory that has been illegally confiscated. We have not gone to court, the court HAS NOT RENDERED A JUDGEMENT YET, the hearing that took place merely said that I as an individual could not be involved in gun manufacturing UNTIL the court proceedings we’re finished. The court date is set for December 5th. What activity that was conducted by Extreme Firearms Inc. was perfectly legal. I had no contact with finished firearms whatsoever. I even stayed away from the whole thing. You know, the batf has worked very hard to find something to get me with, and they haven't had any luck. So they intimidated Bill Richardson into believing that his part in manufacturing the Maadi-Griffin kits and rifles was 'benefiting' Bob Stewart, and "he is a criminal" said the agents, and "you are aiding and abetting a criminal.." they said, and ..."that is a felony.." the agents said, and "we can send you and your family to prison.." the agents said. Well, that was it! The Richardson family business of machine shop operation was 'threatened and intimidated by the BATF" bullies. The matter at hand has NOT EVEN BEEN TO COURT YET, and the batf is acting as though they have the authority, and the judgment, and the executive order to act. That is pure crap! The NRA and GOA are well aware of this situation, due to the many friends [over 250 have called and asked why] who are members and have contacted NRA and GOA officials. These organizations have done nothing. Larry Pratt of the GOA has been given over 26 pages of facts concerning the case, many phone calls, and still no help. Nothing at all. Stephen, if you saw an unconscious victim being assaulted by thugs, and you called the cops, and they came and stood there and did nothing, what would you think of the cops? Well, that is what I think of these cowardly, deceptive, fraudulent organization that take your donations and membership fees in the name of preserving our constitutional rights, the Second amendment rights and so on. What have they done about the 20,000+ anti gun laws presently in force? [the same thing they're doing about U.S. vs stewart, nothing] They may be thinking that 'it will all go away if we wait long enough'. The Batf had no right to take our assets, we no longer have the financial means To afford adequate legal counsel, and that is exactly what the batf wants. We have customers who have been cheated out of their orders. We cannot Fill those orders, we now have to refund the money, and we are broke! Does The NRA and GOA give a damn? What if this happened to one of their family members? I am a life member of the NRA and I am truly ashamed of them. They tell people that I know how to apply for help, I did four months ago. They told me that their meeting would be in the fall. Well, at the time, the court date was for early August, and the court would be long over with by the time they met. I needed help immediately, and they ignored me. Well, the case at hand is very important to all free Americans, the very Second Amendment, and our Constitutional Rights are at stake here. We are going to fight the batf by ourselves along with the help of many free Americans, without the help of GOA and NRA. It is too bad they will not help, but then, after this is over, maybe the real truth will come out as to their true intentions. A fig tree is known by the figs that it bears, as with anything, we are known by the fruits of our labors. God Bless you Stephen, and thanks for your assistance and concerns. God bless America! Land Of the free. bob" ~~~ Just One more reason 2 join JPFO b4 it's 2 late [Edited by for20 on 11-28-2000 at 05:51 PM] __________________ Wow. Sure puts to shame the Reminton Viper I just bought. __________________ JPFO Membership Sign~Up! __________________ wait a second....those up there are REAL guns? You mean you can actually buy things like those? Do you need some special license to own these things? __________________ As long as Gdubbya stays as prez elect. . . I'm sure its all good. Heck, we might start seeing deals and coupons. . . he he he. __________________ Quote: Originally posted by ucbstan wait a second....those up there are REAL guns? You mean you can actually buy things like those? Do you need some special license to own these things? yup, real guns Yup, you can buy one through someone that has a FFL (Federal Firearms License) If you have a friend in the military with an FFL, you can just give him the money (plus a little extra for his trouble) oh, and if you have a problem with that, you better start watching your back - through a set of high-powered binoculars, because those guns can "reach out and touch someone" (accurately (sp?)) at a range of about 2+ miles max range is 4.5+ Miles at 2930f/s (feet per sec) __________________ Well technically anyone in the US can buy them. We have the right to keep and bear arms. The government is not allowed to "infringe" upon that right. That means that any law that interferes in the slightest way is unconstitutional. Our government chooses to ignore that little part about infringement and will get away with it until people take some personal responsibility for themselves and stop allowing it. Ever notice the ones who keep telling us guns are bad are already heavily armed? The US govt. would just love to heard us around like sheep to the slaughter confident in the fact that we could do nothing because we are not armed. __________________ __________________ Say I was to aquire one of these .50 cal rifles somehow, where might one purchase the ammo for it? -Bah, never mind, they have it listed on the page as well... but heck, $1.79/round? I could easily blow $200 worth of ammo in a few hrs. But those incendiary tracers would be hella cool! [Edited by IrishSS on 11-29-2000 at 02:07 PM] __________________ I will loan you the money if you can afford my interest rates. Mavi forum

E-Stamps Bye Bye!

I just read that E-Stamps is getting out of the postage business. If you have any credit left from their promotion several months ago, I believe that you can use it till December 30. __________________ Awww...they are out of business? I remember the sweet deal of the free HP 930C printer. Mavi forum

TV help

ok guys, our TV died a couple of days ago and i'm in the market for a new one. Right now i have my eye on the Sony KV-32XBR400. I've also heard of the panasonic ct32hx40. The best price i can find right now is $1600 for the sony. The tv is HDTV ready. It supports 1080i and 480p (unfortunately it doesn't support 720p). Does anyone have any helpfull comments or suggestions?? I know Pennypinch got this TV a while ago, Are you happy with it?? IS THERE ANYTHING I SHOULD KNOW BEFORE BUYING IT?? Thanks guys (and girls) Mavi forum

"Deep Thoughts" keep it rollin...

Hey I haven't watched SNL in a while. Do they still have "Deep Thoughts?" I think that was one of my favorite corners. Here are some that I remember. please contribute: "If you're ever shipwrecked on a tropical island and you don't know how to speak the natives' language, just say "Poppy-oomy." I bet it means something." "If you ever fall off the Sears Tower, just go real limp, because maybe you'll look like a dummy and people will try to catch you because, hey, free dummy!" "Better not take a dog on the space shuttle, because if he sticks his head out when you're coming home his face might burn up" "I bet the main reason the police keep people away from a plane crash is they don't want anybody walking in and lying down in the crash stuff, then, when somebody comes up, act like they just woke up and go, "What was THAT?!" "Sometimes I think I would like to be named The Prince of Weasels. As the Prince of Weasels, I could sneak up behind people and bite them. Then they would turn around and say, "what the...oh, it's just you the Prince of Weasels." "It's fascinating to think that all around us there's an invisible world we can't even see. I'm speaking, of course, of the World of the Invisible Scary Skeletons." __________________ One day I told my brother we were going to Disneyland...but I took him to the dump instead. He cried....but deep down inside.....I think he liked it. __________________ "Once I was sad for I had no shoes. Then I met a man with no feet. So, I took his shoes. I mean, it's not like he's going to need them, right?" __________________ HAHAHHA.. As I walked into a truck stop, I sat down at the counter. All around me was the stench of Body Odor and Chili. Upon ordering the wisest of the truckers said to me, "Listen up son for what I am going to tell you might save your life. Man who goes to sleep with itchy butt, wakes up with smelly finger." __________________ In weightlifting, I don't think sudden, uncontrolled urination should automatically disqualify you. __________________ You know what would make a good story? Something about a clown who makes people happy, but inside he's real sad. Also, he has severe diarrhea. __________________ Anytime I see something screech across a room and latch onto someone's neck, and the guy screams and tries to get it off, I have to laugh, because what is that thing. __________________ Contrary to what most people say, the most dangerous animal in the world is not the lion or the tiger or even the elephant. It's a shark riding on an elephant's back, just trampling and eating everything they see. __________________ When you die, if you get a choice between going to regular heaven or pie heaven, choose pie heaven. It might be a trick, but if it's not, mmmmmmm, boy. __________________ It's true that every time you hear a bell, an angel gets its wings. But what they don't tell you is that every time you hear a mouse trap snap, and Angel gets set on fire. __________________ The next time I have meat and mashed potatoes, I think I'll put a very large blob of potatoes on my plate with just a little piece of meat. And if someone asks me why I didn't get more meat, I'll just say, "Oh, you mean this?" and pull out a big piece of meat from inside the blob of potatoes, where I've hidden it. Good magic trick, huh? __________________ Life, to me, is like a quiet forest pool, one that needs a direct hit from a big rock half-buried in the ground. You pull and you pull, but you can't get the rock out of the ground. So you give it a good kick, but you lose your balance and go skidding down the hill toward the pool. Then out comes a big Hawaiian man who was screwing his wife beside the pool because they thought it was real pretty. He tells you to get out of there, but you start faking it, like you're talking Hawaiian, and then he gets mad and chases you... __________________ I bet a fun thing would be to go way back in time to where there was going to be an eclipse and tell the cave men, "If I have come to destroy you, may the sun be blotted out from the sky." Just then the eclipse would start, and they'd probably try to kill you or something, but then you could explain about the rotation of the moon and all, and everyone would get a good laugh. __________________ A wise man would pick up a grain of sand and see the entire universe, a stupid man would get naked, role in seaweed, and stand up and say, "Look, I'm vine man." Mavi forum

And the president is........

Bush __________________ ...we all gnow Al is going to give him Hell; **** what is Al going 2 do without a Job now that welfare been eliminated? __________________ are you sure? or is it a bit premature to bust out the Bud?..*sigh* this crap is getting very tiring. I think they should just let RENOTS BE prez for a while. I bet that would solve everything. __________________ This **** is going to continue to drag on. Bore and the crooked democrats are going to make sure of that since they are so power hungry. __________________ "Democrats:Not just a Party Anymore, we're a junta~in~waiting!" Mavi forum

Staples Mailer - "Internet Coupon Fraud"

I am just curious how many other received the staples mailer for Mrs. Beasley's holiday food. I am a little disturbed by who it is addressed to. I have bought two things from staples and tryed to buy about two other orders from staples during the coupon fiascos a while back. I created an account under a different e-mail address each time, so naturally i received four of the same mailers. However, under two of the mailers they are addressed as such: My Name Internet Coupon Fraud 0000 My address #000 My city, CA 00000 Now why the hell are the words "Internet Coupon Fraud" printed right below my name on the mailer? What does this mean? I assume these two mailers that have this heading are from my two orders that were canceled due to the bad coupons. I am upset however that staples would mail an advertisement to me trying to get me to buy something, and attach "Internet Coupon Fraud" below my name. Has anyone else received similar mailings? __________________ The Staples Police is going to come out and beat you. __________________ Quote: Originally posted by kick@ss The Staples Police is going to come out and beat you. with janet's approval, of course. didn't U hear? Staples is the latest addition to our federal police forces, to ensure that every child gets equal access to coupon codes and id protected from every non~governmental threat "all under the rule of law" ;0) __________________ In their naiveté staples probably forgot 2 include a section 2 flag what they deemed fraudulent use;they obviously used the already coded "business name" section as a quick fix ;0) __________________ Staples is dumb! __________________ Are there any coupons to get out of beatings? Maybe there is some kind of 20 off 100 beatings. (New members only) Blu __________________ Mavi forum

How could she..........

On thanksgiving my girlfriend cooked and had damn near her whole family over for the holidays. Unfortunately I had to work and got off at about 1700. When I came home there was hardly any left or just not enough to talk about. Now most girlfriend/boyfriend would put a plate up for their significant other so when they got off work he would have atleast a plate. But not mine. She was like there was some left over. I confronted her about it and she said I should have asked her to make me a plate before I left for work that morning. Then she said a smart comment "Is there anything I'm suppose to automatically do for you", she's lucky I dont hit females. This has a little to do with why I probably frustrate people so many people, me and my relationship problems. Any misunderstandings on this board I blame it mainly on her. What do you think of the thanksgiving situation. Is she right or wrong. __________________ But she sounds like the type that would get defensive at a drop of a hat, Chosen. I say, if you can live without her, you would be better off. This is a huge indication of the future! Heck, anytime you have mentioned her, she has been out for herself. But then, again, we are hearing one side of the story (not that I don't trust yours -- she could have been busy with her family. But if she was, she could have explained it a little better to you instead of becoming defensive.). Be careful! Don't let her got to entangled into your affairs. __________________ Quote: Originally posted by crabbie But she sounds like the type that would get defensive at a drop of a hat, Chosen. Very, she gets mad at just about anything and thinks I'm the one that is always with the attitude. I wonder why . She always wants to know where I'm going and when I'm going to get back. Like yesterday, I went to the store to get some stuff. I told her that I was going and she wanted to know what I was going for. I told her to get some stuff. She said like wait. I was like why does all that matter. She was like why come you just cant tell me things when I ask you. I said why is it so important that you know what im getting from the store, how long im going to be gone, did I collect $200 when I passed GO. Then she was like why do you like to keep things from me, its not like its big deal or anything. And then I said but it is a big deal for you to know every detail about what im doing. This is the typical sh!t I go through. And she wonders why we never fuukin do anything. I DONT HAVE TIME FOR THIS. __________________ like, you should totally dump that girl. why do you even, like, like her? what does she like do for you? does she even like make you happy, like ever? __________________ Quote: Originally posted by styleee like, you should totally dump that girl. why do you even, like, like her? what does she like do for you? does she even like make you happy, like ever? Every know and then, but not to much to brag about. __________________ Hire a hitman... You could probably get one really cheap from those ex USSR countries. __________________ **** man that sux when i was still at home and i cooked while the rents were at work i made them a each a plate to eat and one to take to work for lunch the next day and thats without even being asked to cook i figured the had a long hard day of work while i sat hoe they deserve to come home to a clean house and a hot meal ready but thanksgiving dinner and she didnt ssave you any? what the hell? __________________ I think I should let her read this thread so that she can see that she is wrong in what she did. Would that be wrong on my part. __________________ Quote: Originally posted by chosenfool Quote: Originally posted by crabbie But she sounds like the type that would get defensive at a drop of a hat, Chosen. I say, if you can live without her, you would be better off. This is a huge indication of the future! Heck, anytime you have mentioned her, she has been out for herself. But then, again, we are hearing one side of the story (not that I don't trust yours -- she could have been busy with her family. But if she was, she could have explained it a little better to you instead of becoming defensive.). Be careful! Don't let her got to entangled into your affairs. youre talking about gotmilk right? (cuz it sounds like i should follow that advice) heh heh kidding! but seriously, its tougher to get out of a relationship like his especially if it already involves "THE FAMILY"... hehe sorry about that chosen. The first line was directed at you only Oh, and I totally understand 'the family' thing... I dated a guy once, and it was not anything serious, but he really liked me and he understood how I felt. But his mom always made comments like, 'you are ready for kids, no?' and 'you will make me a wonderful daughter-in-law!' I always chuckled and left it to Markie to deal with it. Well, when I broke it off with Markie, I woke up to find black candles burning on my poor car and on my balcony. hehe GET OUT MILK while you still can!! __________________ Her not saving you some thanksgiving dinner is inconsiderate and shows she doesn't care a whit about your needs. This incident is just another example of her selfinvolved behavior. There is also a lack of trust in your relationship gotmilk. If she's this way now think about how she would be in the future in a more permanent relationship. Bottom line is dump her and her uncaring attitudes. __________________ Quote: Originally posted by sbp Her not saving you some thanksgiving dinner is inconsiderate and shows she doesn't care a whit about your needs. This incident is just another example of her selfinvolved behavior. There is also a lack of trust in your relationship gotmilk. If she's this way now think about how she would be in the future in a more permanent relationship. Bottom line is dump her and her uncaring attitudes. Are you saying she might not trust me? If so, that doesnt give her the right to disrespect me and my house. Never thought I'd say this, but "SUX TO BE ME" [Edited by gotmilk on 11-26-2000 at 03:50 PM] __________________ Quote: Originally posted by gotmilk Quote: Originally posted by sbp Her not saving you some thanksgiving dinner is inconsiderate and shows she doesn't care a whit about your needs. This incident is just another example of her selfinvolved behavior. There is also a lack of trust in your relationship gotmilk. If she's this way now think about how she would be in the future in a more permanent relationship. Bottom line is dump her and her uncaring attitudes. Are you saying she might not trust me? No. He's politely saying you should dump the bitch. __________________ You said yourself gotmilk she doesn't trust you. "She always wants to know where I'm going and when I'm going to get back. Like yesterday, I went to the store to get some stuff. I told her that I was going and she wanted to know what I was going for. I told her to get some stuff. She said like wait. I was like why does all that matter. She was like why come you just cant tell me things when I ask you. I said why is it so important that you know what im getting from the store, how long im going to be gone, did I collect $200 when I passed GO. Then she was like why do you like to keep things from me, its not like its big deal or anything. And then I said but it is a big deal for you to know every detail about what im doing. This is the typical sh!t I go through. And she wonders why we never fuukin do anything. I DONT HAVE TIME FOR THIS." I am not saying in any way, shape or form that you have given her reason to act like that. What I am saying is this: a good relationship is built on trust and mutual repect. Your current relationship doesn't have that. Its not easy to hear this but you know what must be done eventually. __________________ Saturday I made a big bowl of turkey salad with the left over turkey. It was a very big bowl mind you and I had a small bowl of it that day and an even smaller bowl of it for breakfast on Sunday. I came home Saturday from work and what do you know it was only like a half cup left. My girlfriend said her brother and dad came over and had about 4 bowls of it. I confronted her about this and she said well you had some and I didnt think you wanted anymore. I told her I dont buy **** and make **** for your family to come over here and eat up and you think its ok because they are your people. She actually believes she is right in what she is doing. __________________ Kick ass, take names. Oh, wait, don't do that. But I'd definately dump the bitch. Who does **** like that?! She knew you were pissed about the Thanksgiving thing, but she didn't get it. She doesn't understand that she is screwing up on a really big scale. And, she super selfish. She never thinks of you. Only her and her family. She always wants to know where you are, which is a big sign of possesive behavior. And, she has no respect for you or your belongings. There really doesn't seem to be any options with this chick. She just doesn't understand how much this is bothering you. Dump her. She doesn't seem to be worth the trouble. Blu __________________ What makes you want to have her as a girlfriend? __________________ Quote: Originally posted by dodo90024 What makes you want to have her as a girlfriend? She wasnt like this when werent staying together and you never expect it when you start. __________________ Quote: Originally posted by gotmilk Quote: Originally posted by dodo90024 What makes you want to have her as a girlfriend? She wasnt like this when werent staying together and you never expect it when you start. which is why i don't think i'll ever move in with someone (unless, of course, i get married, which won't be for a loooooooooooongggggggggggggggg time.) all of my friends who live with their boy/girlfriends HATE their lives. they don't even like the person they are with anymore, and they don't know how to break up with them. AH! and then i have to hear about how miserable they are! GET OUT NOW I TELL YA! __________________ You need to seriously sit down and tell her what's up. You are in the relationship for mutual respect, honesty, trust and admiration and it seems like all you are getting is a piece of ass (if even that?).. If she has anything smart ass to say while you are letting her know how you feel, kick her to the curb and hope she finds some other person to not think about.. Nobody needs abuse.. and this my friend is just another kind.. it's called being walked all over.. and even though she might not know it (which is why you need to make her aware in MANY words), she's still doin it and it's not right.. But remember, if you do dump her and you find someone else, this is how your courtship should go. "Hi I'm (Insert name here), what's your name?? Would you save me a plate on Thanksgiving?? YES?? Great! Would you like to go out for some coffee??".. If the girl has to hesitiate.. Move on! =0) Thanksgiving is for family, friends and loved ones to be thought of and admired.. not forgotten and starving.. ESPECIALLY when you pay for the food. __________________ Quote: Originally posted by kain9i6 You need to seriously sit down and tell her what's up. You are in the relationship for mutual respect, honesty, trust and admiration and it seems like all you are getting is a piece of ass (if even that?).. If she has anything smart ass to say while you are letting her know how you feel, kick her to the curb and hope she finds some other person to not think about.. Nobody needs abuse.. and this my friend is just another kind.. it's called being walked all over.. and even though she might not know it (which is why you need to make her aware in MANY words), she's still doin it and it's not right.. But remember, if you do dump her and you find someone else, this is how your courtship should go. "Hi I'm (Insert name here), what's your name?? Would you save me a plate on Thanksgiving?? YES?? Great! Would you like to go out for some coffee??".. If the girl has to hesitiate.. Move on! =0) Thanksgiving is for family, friends and loved ones to be thought of and admired.. not forgotten and starving.. ESPECIALLY when you pay for the food. I actually did this like night, she just turned her cheek and started fumbling with other ****. I asked her if she felt she was right and what she said was.................(I think you already know). This morning I told her to ask everybody at her job what thought about this situation and what they would do. I doubt she will ask though. __________________ How could she not think to make you a plate?? Dump the cold hearted b*tch. __________________ I would have made you a plate and had lots of leftovers for you...I am just that way. I am sorry you didn't get the turkey grindage you so desired...I will send you some of my leftovers. __________________ Quote: Originally posted by abbra I would have made you a plate and had lots of leftovers for you...I am just that way. I am sorry you didn't get the turkey grindage you so desired...I will send you some of my leftovers. Preciate the thought. If only she would have done it. __________________ usually im really forgiving in most respects but in this case it sounds like this kinda **** happens with alot mroe then just food kick her ass to the curb cause you aitn happy and he isnt goona change __________________ kain9i6 already called it. Without trust and respect this person can't even be your friend, much less your significant other. She will have to learn these or you will be one unhappy sucker. Cover yourself now, close any shared bank accounts, cancel any credit cards with both your names. The banks and CC companies will always hold the person they have the greatest chance of collecting from responsible (that would be you). If she asks why, just tell her that she doesn't deserve the trust that it implies, because she doesn't return it. If she is on your lease, see if you can have her taken off. If you’re the one who leaves, make damn sure you are removed from the lease because you will be held responsible. If she is afraid of loosing you she might just realize what she is doing wrong and correct it. If not, she might do you the favor of walking out on you. You might also consider using her family against her. Ask her dad what he would have done in the same situation, make it sound as if you are asking for advice. Her mother and brother might also have an interesting opinion. Her family, if made aware of the situation, might do the attitude adjustment for you. They already know what buttons to push. They sound like a close family and if they start considering you a part of it, they probably will not tolerate her abusing you. Then again if they give you a ‘tough $hit” attitude, you probably don’t want to have anything to do with the low-lives. It would be a shame to loose the investment of time and energy you have put into your relationship. It would be worse to stick around if it isn’t going to be much better. Just my $.02 Good Luck. __________________ Quote: Originally posted by evilcyclops You might also consider using her family against her. Ask her dad what he would have done in the same situation, make it sound as if you are asking for advice. Her mother and brother might also have an interesting opinion. Her family, if made aware of the situation, might do the attitude adjustment for you. They already know what buttons to push. They sound like a close family and if they start considering you a part of it, they probably will not tolerate her abusing you. Then again if they give you a ‘tough $hit” attitude, you probably don’t want to have anything to do with the low-lives. Just my $.02 Good Luck. I feel that if her family came over there and damn near ate up everything, they have no respect for other peoples stuff either and only consider themselves as well. So it probably wouldnt do no good asking for their opinion. I guess with them its GET IT WHILE THE GETTING IS GOOD. __________________ Quote: Originally posted by gotmilk I feel that if her family came over there and damn near ate up everything, they have no respect for other peoples stuff either and only consider themselves as well. So it probably wouldnt do no good asking for their opinion. I guess with them its GET IT WHILE THE GETTING IS GOOD. Alright, gotmilk, you've got a point and you've made it, and now you've got PLENTY of responses backing you up. Now quit your crying, go home and deal with your ****. I don't want to hear any more whining on this thread from you. The next post better be "We've worked it out and things will be great from here on." or "I sent that snotty little bitch packing and now I feel like a new man. Seeya when I get back from the strip club." __________________ GOTMILK, she will only treat you like **** if you allow it. You teach people how to treat you by what you let them get away with. Her not making you a plate was just downright inconsiderate, it was afterall a holiday, which makes it even worse. You don't sound like you are really happy with this girl, and speaking from experience bad relationships don't just fix themselves. Tell her what you are pissed about, be specific and tell her what you expect from her as a partner. If she is not agreeable, dump her. Mavi forum

Who ate the most for Thanksgiving >:)

How many FULL plates? I ate 12 FULL plates! UGH. __________________ good god thats a lot of food!!!! By the time the food was ready I wasn't hungry anymore __________________ I ate nothing. I am a vegetarian plus no one invited me anywhere __________________ Looks like you missed gobbling up this gobbler. __________________ But this turkey is laughing at your ass right in plain sight! "Nahh nahh you can't eat me." __________________ Quote: Originally posted by TheLoneGunman I ate nothing. I am a vegetarian plus no one invited me anywhere Not even any tofurkey for ya? __________________ Quote: Originally posted by TheLoneGunman I ate nothing. I am a vegetarian plus no one invited me anywhere i had a "vegetarian turkey" YUM YUM __________________ I can't remember what i had...it was way too long ago.. __________________ how in god's name did you eat that much food? My gosh are you some kind of reincarnated Roman just back from the purging tables? __________________ i had bout 7 full but they were mostly ham and veggies and rolls plus i picked at the leftover in the fridge for the rest of the night __________________ You better exercise all that turkey dinner off: __________________ Well, I can't say that I had a ton of food on the night of thanksgiving, but I've been lovin the leftovers ever since. My fam deep fried a turkey. IT's a great way to do it. Actually kind of a comical experience. I'll see if I can't post some pics later on. Blu __________________ Quote: My fam deep fried a turkey. IT's a great way to do it. Actually kind of a comical experience. I'll see if I can't post some pics later on. I think the comical part is that you actually took pictures __________________ When you see the pictures, you may understand. Needless to say my family doesn't treat any holiday with any amount of respect. Blu Mavi forum

Where $1.3 Billion of Ur Tax $$$ is going

Monsanto, US 'War On Drugs' Poisoning Columbia's Environment __________________ guess California not the only place they're spraying... __________________ http://www.sightings.com/general5/trill.htm Mavi forum

Friendly Public Service Message

Just remember that certain government[and non~government] agencies now possess the ability to beam very strong suggestions straight into ur mind; think twice before U do anything rash Just keep in mind that Timothy McVeigh, SirhanSirhan, and James Earl Ray still have no recollection of their supposedly self~motivated crimes Be Cool __________________ They have been doing it for years for20 right under our noses. They reprogram the minds of the men and women who sign up for the armed forces, and teach them or rather pound it in to their heads to kill kill kill.. and other. __________________ Thats why I wear aluminum foil on my head at all times. Its the only protection against the mind altering rays coming from the sky! __________________ Quote: Originally posted by BADFlSH Thats why I wear aluminum foil on my head at all times. Its the only protection against the mind altering rays coming from the sky! That OR just plain common sense is enough of a defense don't be a slave to dark forces; Stay Light ;0) __________________ All of this knowledge. . . from a guy named '420' hmm, got the munchies. . . hhehehehe. Mavi forum

We the People??

Just curious, did anyone else participate in any of the national "We the People" competitions? If so, what year and what unit did you participate? As for myself, I was a member of our Unit 2 team in 1998 at the National competition in DC. The Articles of Confederation are still stagnant in my brain. Mavi forum

Francis Bacon and the True Ends of Skepticism

Originally appeared in the Nov/Dec SKEPTICAL INQUIRER Long ago, Bacon asserted that science must begin with doubts in order to end in certainties, a paradox that still leads to misunderstanding about Bacon and about science by Barbara Friedberg Detractors of modern science sometimes refer to themselves as skeptics, because they dare to question long~accepted doctrine. But skepticism as a method is not just a resolve to disagree. It is the presumption of error and fallibility on which our science is based. This paradox was first put forth by Francis Bacon in The New Organon[1620], building on his previous Advancement of Learning[1605]. He announced that great things were possible in science[and society], provided that nearly all the old methods and beliefs were cast away. What struck him was the mixture of unproductive dogma and unresolved controversy over basic theory in science despite long centuries of data~collecting and thought. He had ideas about a remedy, yet he believed no remedy could be complete because the human mind itself had faults and limitations that made it almost incapable of seeing truly. Today when people claim as a novel discovery that scientists R not godlike beings, that thought may be limited by emotions and culture, and that language is not the same as natural fact, they R merely reiterating Bacon's starting assumptions. We think of the seventeenth century as a golden age of science. Yet when Bacon considered the matter, inquiry was busy but not very fruitful. Cosmology was up for grabs, the old Scholastic system of four elements offered no definite path to new discoveries, alchemists were at odds about basic laws of chemistry, and when an innovator such as William Gilbert[1540-1603] did achieve gnowledge about magnetism, he then when overboard with mystical extensions of his discoveries. Whether stressing reason and logic, symbolic connections and intuition, or hands~on experiment, the active disciplines had yielded few outcomes solid enough to be built upon. But there was practical progress in navigation, engineering, and astronomy. Empiricism was not lacking, but it did not underlie broad scientific theories. These tended to soar aloft, in obedience to what Bacon called "Idols of the mind" because they diverted men from examining divinely created nature. What was needed was "a closer and purer league between...the experimental and the rational(such as has never yet been made)" Bacon's Paradox Bacon saw that good thinking is a sort of paradox. The mind is all 2 effective, not only in feeling and imagining, but even in reasoning. Fastening on one idea, it traces implications, follows up parallels, leaps to conclusions, and creates a tight and persuasive system of beliefs. This power can be useful, if properly disciplined, but it tends to shrug aside direct observation of nature. Human, according to Bacon, does not have a privileged intuition into the construction of the cosmos - a direct link to the Creator' intentions[due 2 amnesia from the descent into Human form] - as many then believed. She must let the actions of nature in the uncontrollable future be the arbiters of hur theory's soundness. Initial speculations must issue in a well~formulated experiment, and that, in turn, must yield to a sensory judgement of the experiment's result. Though Bacon didn't think of double~blind testing, he saw that these stages must be made as distinct from each other as possible. Bacon called endemic human limitations "Idols of the Tribe." Even the cleverest minds leap to generalizations, notice striking events more than typical ones, and seek out supportive data more than counterexamples. They fasten on apparent patterns 2 quickly and don't let go. "Idols of the Cave" were the individual's limitations and enthusiasms. She may apply favorite ideas or remedies to everything, like a wonder drug. "Idols of the Marketplace" were the limitations of common language, suitable for everyday life, but not to describe nature accurately. "Substance," "heavy," "moist," and "dense" were all vague terms. New words must refer to measurable physical phenomena. In developing these ideas, Bacon outlined a devastating critique that might well doom any science. But he rejected the immobile skepticism, common at that time, which doubted whether any human theory about nature would ever be a clear advance. Some raise doubts, he said, as lawyers do, without any aim of settling a question. They may embrace a "deliberate and factitious despair" of learning anything new, for the sake of thinking their own thought perfect. "When the human mind has once despaired of finding truth, its interest in all things grows fainter, and the result is that men turn aside to pleasant disputations and discourses and roam as it were from object to object...a wandering kind of inquiry that leads to nothing." ~ Bacon Here bacon aptly depicts that spongy indecisiveness of mind that can masquerade as "being critical". Today many academics, having grown uneasy about the concepts of seeking truth, deal mainly in ingenious detractions, aimed at proving various forms of supposed excellence R really(but not "in truth") invidious shams (see Haack). If public debate is mere entertainment and debunking is an automatic reflex with no drive to find central, usable insights, we R imitating the learned men whom Bacon criticized, whose scholarship sought just to get by according to some groups's limited conventions. But Bacon wanted people to address great issues and strive to be adequate to their demands. Just as analyzing government mismanagement should actually give hope (Bacon wistfully reflected) because it shows failure was not inevitable, so he will offer "arguements of hope," by analyzing the bad habits of mind and futile methods so far used in science. Both mind and senses R unreliable, yet the right method of using mind to correct mind, as we look from a different angle to correct sight, might repair our faults just enough to achive reliable theories. And this, in essence, has proven True. Bacon's Checks and Balances Unlike most revolutionaries (but like the American founders), Bacon offers not a cure, but "helps": checks and balances. First is the thinker's deliberate attention to each pitfall. Second, hur limits will be bypassed by involving diverse inquirers[NOT JUST TV]. And finally, the theory~making urge itself must be challenged by experimentsl tests of each assumption and conclusion. The inquirer's thinking will also be affected. What counts as a theory or a scientific term will be guided by hur awareness that an eventual empirical test is in the offing.(And, conversly, dubious scientific thought is influenced by the gnowledge that no rigorous test will be applied) Bacon's paradoxical message - the mind is faulty, the mind can achieve wonders - is usually misunderstood, ignored, or quoted misleadingly. Yet it is at the heart of the mission of the SKEPTICAL INQUIRER. For Bacon grasped that scientific method must be intimately linked with a critique of pseudo~science[and disinformation], and that such a critique was not to be just a start~up routine for modern science, but would be of continuing, even increasing, importance. The more that inquiry prospered, the more its intellectual, semantic, and institutional offshoots would be vulnerable to the Idols of the mind. Bacon saw that the three Idols might generate whole systems of belief, tightly inwoven, fiercely defended, securely institutionalized, and thus hard to dislodge. His fourth category, "Idols of the Theatre," refers to the "vain show" of such a system, incorporates all the others. Though familiar mainly with the Scholastic system, he expected that as freer thought was permitted, many new, specious systems would arise. The fame of his initiating role for modern science has obscured his concern with the perennial. Even Stephen J. Gould, in a recent article, mentions only "outmoded" or "older, traditional" systems as Bacon's target, rather than the system~making propensity of the Human mind. Bacon did not envisage the mathematical physics to come; indeed, he could hardly gnow what a powerful theory would look like. Thus he thought more generally about the search for meaningful patterns in the confusion of phenomena[like how chemtrails R definately NOT contrails], making his ideas particularly relevant to fledgling and would~be sciences He hoped that ethics and politics would yield to his ideas[how's the ole ticker goin' Dick?]. But the notion of creating a science of society tends to make people aim for universal laws, exact measurements (of something), and the prestige of a system. Soon after Bacon's death, Thomas Hobbes attempted such a science, with simple mechanical principles in the style of physics. But such efforts ought to be "scientific" first in heeding Bacon's warnings about straying from the facts and clinging to assumptions or terminology that cannot lead to nu, testable insight. Bacon would have us spend more time with tentative "middle principles." Pioneers such as Freud, eager to make their ideas science, R in danger of taking any plausible mechanism to be a universal principle. Bacon's reluctance to assume uniformity, though misplaced in physics[which is quickly finding itself transforming into something else], is more pertinent in studying Human nature. Bacon's list of features in Scholasticism that held back inquiry is surprisingly up~to~date. For example, he includes worship of antiquity; worship of the new; picking on points for arguement rather than nu discovery; didactic presentation of what is not understood; premature formalizing of dubious beliefs; reverence towards an oft~quoted founder; and eloquent elaboration of trivial ideas. We still rush to call things gnowledge and teach formally what we cannot yet be sure of. In alternate medicine the ancient and brand~new R equally valued for that trait alone. Excessive quoting of a founder(whether Lenin or Freud[though the Founding Fathers have some genuine gems]) whom experience has superseded suggests one is not trying to move on. Bacon thought Aristotle and others should be treated as "counselors" to give advice, not "dictators" to enforce belief. Thus he himself offered "not an opinion to be held, but a work to be done" What Bacon called "contentious" learning originated in the twelfth century as a laudable attempt to consider more than one view. But the formal debate had become a mere contest in which flooring an opponent took precedence over gaining nu insight. Similarly, modern talk shows, debates, and documentaries may virtuously state contrasting views without working them over to reach nu insight. Bacon's value is in pressing us to question the systems or rhetorical habits of many modern gurus, from Hegel, Marx, and Freud to Derrida, Foucault[ideas as virus still rings true to my ears] and Lacan. Posing questions of pertinent concreteness is, to be sure, a central intellectual skill. Mastering it may require a long struggle with one or more slippery systems finally abandoned. Alexander Herzen, in nineteeth~century Russia, discovered in Bacon's New Organon a radicalism more exact than the left~wing Hegelianism[Damn Disinformationalists!] of his time. This quintessential liberal critic of the right and left extremes[the True meaning of Liberal thinking] felt surprising affinity with Bacon's thought, as we may also. Dilution and Misunderstanding of Bacon's Method Bacon's ideas were both heeded and ignored in the centuries following. His insistence that theory be in continual interchange with experiment is fundamental to science and assumed by Galileo, Kepler, and Newton. Yet the rise of mathematical physics, which seemed to contain its own safeguards against error, encouraged renewed trust in reason alone. Descartes' influence also gave authority 2 the mathematical mind and reasserted the old hunger for intuitive certainty, in contrast with Bacon's portrayl of a tricky, self~doubtinh, circuitous quest. In the 1660s, promoters of experimental methods in England hoped that direct study of nature would offer a refuge from the theological wrangling and ensuing violence of the Civil War. Bacon's talk of enchanted mirrors and idolatries of mind had an almost Calvinistic ring to those eager to link religion with the clear light of reason. Even Robert Boyle, who was closest to Bacon in his methods, intentions, and interests, wanted science and religion mutually to vindicate one another in "natural theology." But Bacon regarded scientific assumptions derived from religion as "anticipations of nature" which had always prevented sound discoveries. Specifically, he rejected attempts to use the book of Genesis as an authority for science[no ****!] But in the heyday of natural theology(the eighteenth century), this was forgotten, and it was possible for a geologist to think he was heeding Bacon just because he looked at physical evidence, though his purpose was to vindicate the account in Genesis. the historian pf science Charles Gillispie points out the discrepancy while offering another distortion. He derides Bacon for his "popular" notion that science required "not difficult abstract thought but only patience and the right method." He makes the common mistake of assuming that some mechanical ascent from experiment to theory is all that Bacon proposed. Actually, Bacon's wished~for method of constantly questioning and retesting one's thought, going from works to axiom, and back, as he put it, could hardly be more difficult, In fact, Bacon feared that people would judge his ideas wholly by his tentative suggestions for moving from data to low~level hypothesis. And that is exactly what happened. These proposals (which have some limited value) R usually cited as the Baconian method, then dismissed as inadequate. Often, as Henry Bauer does in Scientific Literacy and the Myth of Scientific Method, critics proceed 2 their own view of what is important, ending with refelections similiar 2 Bacon's about the pitfalls of the mind. Bacon himself said that his positive proposals should be thrown out if they didn't serve. What mattered was the empirical testing of each theory's assumptions and conclusions, neither accepting old dogmas nor hurriedly forming new ones. For "the art of discovery" would also improve as science advanced. The point is that Bacon's "method" is really a meta~method, a set of principles underlying method. He assumed that native wit would generate theories and that the real problem was to discipline them[i.e. have Ur Bull**** Detector On at All Times}. But the false "Baconianism" is not the only shadow blotting out Bacon's meaning. A common misconception is that he wanted science to aim at power rather than truth. He is associated with the modern slogan, "gnowledge is power", which he did not say. Usually, people mean by it that gnowledge brings us worldly triumph. Or, at best, that gnowledge brings power to humanity in the form of useful technology. Bacon did want 2 achieve the later eventually. But he was referring tot he proof of scientific theories in saying: Gnowledge and power meet in one; for where the cause in not gnown, the effect cannot be produced. Nature to be commander must be obeyed; and that which in contemplation is as the cause is in operation as the rule That is, only by making nature act a certain way (exercising "power") can U be sure that U understand how it does act, and only by gnowing that can U control it. This simple idea, like Dewey's "learning by doing," is far~reaching in implication. It relects an appreciation of how people usually do behave: they talk highfalutin nonsense that is far from any facts. In Bacon's famous triad, they produce "fantastical," "contentious," or "delicate" learning: statements that R false, rhetorically persuasive only, or merely aesthetic wordplay. Bacon's hope of eventual technology is regularly confused with his methodological concern with experimet(power) to verify gnowledge. he didn't want people to stop quick practical gains. To shrink from intellectual challenge was as cowardly as to fear testing one's suppositions against reality. "Works themselves R of greater value as pledges of truth than as contributing to the comforts of life." Yet he did beleive that to ease Human misery was a noble purpose. Most people, he said, seek gnowledge for professional advancement, profit, or to triumph over rivals; sometimes for idle curiosity. The benefit of one's country was a higher end, and bettern than all these, the good of Humankind. In The Advancement of Learning, Bacon explained that by "use: he didn't mean achieving wealth or succcess, but what would be "solid and fruitful" as opposed to "vain and fantastical". If it is real gnowledge,it has implications; it leads on, and makes one want to try it out. The hypothetical path to concrete reality should be intelligible, however complex. Sometimes people embrace dense ideologies of politics or psychoanalysis while avoidng the question, "But how exactly will any of this help?" even though their stated purpose is social reform or healing. Grand philosophic systems R the fruit of struggle with some Human problem. If their adherents retreat to obscurantism, often they have failed and refuse to admit it. When Khrushchev(a Baconian a times) asserted that there is "no Communism without sausages," the marxist~Leninist experts in Moscow saw him as a buffoon. But his down~to~earth concern about hunger was part of a drive to truth that also made him speak out about Stalin and recognize the madness of nuclear war. What is called "ulility" or "pragmatism" can be given different slants. William James tended to accept the practical value of ideas (loosely applied) that might not strictly be true. George Orwell, in 1984, showed the dire everyday consequences of living by lies. For Bacon, practice proved the worth of ideas, but also (as for Orwell) showed the failure of false ones[say, like the drug war] Bacon saw clearly the dichotomy between the shifty language of men and nature's power, which could not be bought off by flattery or incantation. "To overcome not an adversary in arguement, but nature in action" was aim and most important distinction he made. He gnew he was surrounded, as we R now, by adroit rhetoricians who refused to accept that words sometimes succeed and sometimes fail to get close to the things they purport to describe, and it matters. The idea that thought can never be anything but rhetoric or "conversation" will only satisfy those who never feel obligated to act, and therefore to get reality right __________________ Just think how the original separation of powers in the American Republic, i.e. Executive,Legislative,Judicial, was corrupted by the [unlawful]introduction of federal income tax code in 1913, putting judges under the control of the Treasury dept and creating a whole new wealth of corruption and centralized control Now do U see why sh#t is so ****ed up? Mavi forum

Very lame Happy Squirrel!!

Last night Happy Squirrel went into many threads and posted a dumb response so he could fill this forum's Last Post column up with "last post by The Happy Squirrel". This lame behaviour is unacceptable and Happy Squirrel's account has been locked. HappySquirrel can send his apology for the members of this bbs to apexmod@post.com [Edited by Got Apex Moderator on 11-17-2000 at 02:55 AM] __________________ I don't know if I totally agree with locking his account. Most of his responses were in relation to the thread topic. Maybe you could just bump his posts down as a slap on the wrist like you did with gotmilk. Actually I guess you had to lock his account to stop the madness. Never mind. [Edited by StonedWheat on 11-17-2000 at 02:37 AM] __________________ pretty lame posts by THS. Give him a week to chill out and contemplate. __________________ IMHO, It's an off-topic forum. Stuff like that is ... Well, off topic! It may be lame, but unless it was some attack on this web-site, or an inappropriate attack on an individual I'd say 'let it go'. But, hey, this isn't my web-site and THS' actions and your subsequent actions on THS have little effect on me. I think a week off for THS will allow THS to chill with other sadder squirrels and help them find their nuts! __________________ HP is probably busting his ass for midterms coming up and so psyched out by the shin bone being connected to the thigh bone, that he went bonkers... Have a heart Leon..I am sure you understand the stress of mids... as i say this running down computer corridor with hair standing on end mouth open screaming ...ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!!!!!!!! __________________ Not to be shining ass, but I agree with Leon It's highly annoying to see every single post has a new post from the same damned person. I don't want 6 net junkies flooding up the forums to see how can create a "Last post" collumn. __________________ Quote: Originally posted by Space_boy IMHO, It's an off-topic forum. Stuff like that is ... Well, off topic! It may be lame, but unless it was some attack on this web-site, or an inappropriate attack on an individual I'd say 'let it go'. See, that's a popular attitude, that because it's "anything goes", I can act in a flagrantly stupid fashion. Look, just because you can theoretically do anything, does not mean you should. Behavior that serves nothing except to waste disk space and bandwidth SHOULD be considered unacceptable. Funny is one thing; discussion is another; "and closer" or trying to fill up the last post column is yet another entirely. That last is not off-topic. It's just rubbish. __________________ Quote: Originally posted by pennypinch See, that's a popular attitude, that because it's "anything goes", I can act in a flagrantly stupid fashion. Look, just because you can theoretically do anything, does not mean you should. Behavior that serves nothing except to waste disk space and bandwidth SHOULD be considered unacceptable. Funny is one thing; discussion is another; "and closer" or trying to fill up the last post column is yet another entirely. That last is not off-topic. It's just rubbish. [/b] I didn't think anyone else on this forum was from Houston! I'm moving out of here next month though... Going back north! We just have a difference of opinion (ain't it great?). By all means I think what THS did was stupid, but stupid people are everywhere. I guess I'm standing up for THS (even after insulting you, you nutty, rabies infested furball). If you're going to be stupid, do it here (it entertains me!). You aren't the first to fill up the last post column (sorry, I think AJ or ProMinx beat you to it), you won't be the last. So I dare you to find something stupid and original. Then we'll all laugh and sing and tell stories and laugh some more. __________________ Quote: Originally posted by Got Apex Moderator Last night Happy Squirrel went into many threads and posted a dumb response so he could fill this forum's Last Post column up with "last post by The Happy Squirrel". Who here hasn't done that?? hehe __________________ Leon Darling, Give Peace A Chance and have a heart and forgive our Happy Squirrel. I don't think he ment any harm in being a last poster. You know the holidays are coming and its a time of love and forgiveness and all it takes is one good person to forgive another even if they don't like what that person did. I hear all this mismosh about taking up bandwith on peoples computers. If they are so worried about bandwith why do they come here then. Leon your a delightful chap, and a reasonable chap. Can't you bring back our HP and let bygones be ...? __________________ FYI: Leon != Got Apex Moderator __________________ Since HappySquirrel has sent back an apologetic email he will be welcomed back on the bbs on Monday instead of having a week time-out. This bbs is not to be used by people to do anything and everything silly like this because they have nothing to do at work and school. Others may have done this sort of lame behaviour in the past but this won't be allowed. And finally this isn't Leon since Leon is busy ensuring the site and bbs run smoothly. __________________ |GAM is canadian! behaviour = canadian spelling! __________________ leaves the weekend for the Squirrel to get his nuts back again... __________________ It's Got|Apex? Not GoT|ReTdrdedRodentDropPinGS? ;0) __________________ Kudos to you Forum Moderator. You did a good deed and you will be rewarded 10 fold. Have a nice Thanksgiving and a good Thanksgiving to Leon and your gang at Apex. Annie. __________________ Quote: Originally posted by coleslaw FYI: Leon != Got Apex Moderator GAM=GAM [and I think ucbstan if my memory serves me right] __________________ I still think He should have to pay a price for his actions. "You play the game you pay the price" Quote from my boss when I said I was going to grab something to eat, and wound up chilling on top of the van. He was'nt very happy. __________________ Dude!! Why'd I miss this thread? It's freaking hilarious! I didn't get to read it until sbp gave me a link here. HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!! And just out of curiosity...who here didn't understand coleslaw's C++ language (!=)? I'm just trying to figure out the programming backgrounds of the board... ProMinx __________________ Quote: Originally posted by ProMinx Dude!! Why'd I miss this thread? It's freaking hilarious! I didn't get to read it until sbp gave me a link here. HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!! And just out of curiosity...who here didn't understand coleslaw's C++ language (!=)? I'm just trying to figure out the programming backgrounds of the board... ProMinx hmm, it's not just c++ buddy. __________________ Quote: Originally posted by ProMinx Dude!! Why'd I miss this thread? It's freaking hilarious! I didn't get to read it until sbp gave me a link here. HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!! And just out of curiosity...who here didn't understand coleslaw's C++ language (!=)? I'm just trying to figure out the programming backgrounds of the board... ProMinx ProMinx... Was it you who filled the "last post column" last time??? Or did you fill the "posted by" column. I can't remember who did what (am I that old?). Boy, the times have a-changed since then! --- Back when I was a kid they hadn't even invented pregnant chads yet. We had to guess who everyone voted for. Really caused some problems with those damn Schizo's. __________________ i never filled the entire list thing, but i did put severe dents in it a number of times. Also, I've never posted in the car section or a few other sections, so I've never had my name on all of them at once. ProMinx __________________ Well ProMinx... Sorry for accusing you of doing something you didn't... Or am I __________________ nor have i had my name in all of them at once __________________ Is anyone getting tired of this topic? HP served his time. Sheesh! let it rest. __________________ Thank you abbra can someone please kill this thread Mavi forum

tech prob

I am ahving a difficult time with a file Its a .avi file useing real it give me an error msg that reads "unable to render file MP43 decompressor not found" this file will not open in win media player, real player, or jsut the standard media viewer that comes with windows Is this file junk or is their a way that i am not seeing to open this?? I can not find anyhting along the line of plugins or MP43 or anything similar from real can anyone help? [Edited by The Happy Squirrel on 11-16-2000 at 05:40 PM] __________________ could it be an asf file? or a divx file? you problably just dont have to codec for it. __________________ nope its avi but i also have asf's that do not work either what is codec?? brian not working today explain what i need to get and what to do __________________ avi's can be encoded in many different formats (ie raw data, mpeg 1 2 3) asf is the Microsoft version of Mpeg 4 (Divx is another version) i'm guessing from the "MP43" that its an Mpeg 4 file. My best advice would be to download the latest version of Media Player and try to play it with that. __________________ You can find windows media player at http://www.microsoft.com/windows/med...en/default.asp You can find the codec on these sites.. http://divx.vcdguide.com/codec.html http://divx.ctw.cc/ http://dvl.cjb.net/ Mavi forum

Thanksgiving Break!!!

Well, I have class till Tuesday, but I am curious to see if anyone wants to get together the day after, maybe catch a movie... I know there are St. Louisians in here... Or if anyone wants to fly in, post here...Maybe Apex will fly in with T-Shirts... Er YEa! __________________ I will be watching bedazzled fomr the comfort of home tongiht anyone want to join me?? __________________ Sure, I guess I can go see a movie with you over break. I think you know where I live... __________________ I've not seen that movie. Where do you live? __________________ I live in N Minnesota why be bother with expenxive movie theathe prices when you can view the movies that they are showing formthe comfort of your own living room for free i love the internet!!!!! __________________ DOH! I live in California. One of my friend will eventually download it and I'll just borrow from him. __________________ yeha they are out there not too hard to find if you know where to look __________________ NG mIRC __________________ speaking of mIRC, we ars still waiting for all of you to come to the got|apex? chatroom on Dalnet __________________ is it "#gotapex" without the question mark? Mavi forum

YAJ

This was in the Washington Post.... > the title of the article was "Best comeback line ever." > > In summary, the police arrested Patrick Lawrence, a 22-year-old white > male, resident of Dacula, Ga., in a pumpkin patch at 11:38 pm on > Friday. Lawrence will be charged with lewd and lascivious behavior, > public indecency, and public intoxication at the Gwinnett County > Courthouse on Monday. > > The suspect explained that as he was passing a pumpkin patch he decided > to stop. "You know, a pumpkin is soft and squishy inside, and > there was no one around here for miles. At least I thought there > wasn't," he stated in a phone interview. Lawrence went on to say that he > pulled over to the side of the road, picked out a pumpkin that he felt > was appropriate to his purposes, cut a hole in it, and proceeded to > satisfy his alleged "need." I guess I was just really into it, you > know?" he commented with evident embarrassment. > > In the process, Lawrence apparently failed to notice a Gwinnett county > police car approaching and was unaware of his audience until > Officer Brenda Taylor approached him."It was an unusual situation, > that's for sure," said Officer Taylor. "I walked up to Lawrence and > he's....just working away at this pumpkin." Taylor went on to describe > what happened when she approached Lawrence."I just went up and > said, Excuse me sir, but do you realize that you are screwing a > pumpkin?" > > He froze and was clearly very surprised that I was there, and then > looked me straight in the face and said......... > > A PUMPKIN? DAMN.....IS IT MIDNIGHT ALREADY?" __________________ Please Folks:Take a minute to preview posts before posting so that word~wraps can be connected it would be much appreciated :0) __________________ test __________________ test? Of course it works, how else would everyone else be posting? YAJ? you must have meant Y2J, and just missed the '2' by a few buttons __________________ hehe good one __________________ haha i wonder what the cop did after the guy said that. i would have let him go __________________ hahahahaha __________________ Quote: Originally posted by Tuvi haha i wonder what the cop did after the guy said that. i would have let him go I don't know about that. A lil'old country town down south isn't likely to take kindly on some stranger runnin' 'round nekkid fernicatin' with in-animate objects. Better to take the guy in at least for the night before some good ol'boys find him and beat the piss outta him or shoot him. Mavi forum

This might help the voting people

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__________________ yeah its just hard to find good office outlets these days __________________ I sure hope I get one!?! I am getting there, to think at 1 point I had Apex and Renots beat (WAT AM I SAYN, posts mean nothing, it's the content!) __________________ Quote: Originally posted by AmRivlin (WAT AM I SAYN, posts mean nothing, it's the content!) Sure~ __________________ Quote: Originally posted by gotmilk I could so use that right now Mavi forum

Breastfeeding issue- Yes or no.......

um..I say NO to that one. __________________ Bad business Maybe they should consider this __________________ I know have a new wallpaper for my desktop __________________ well in all seriouness my answer would have to be yes __________________ human milk has a very high content of IGH-1, an insulin like product. this is also a product of rbST treated cow's milk. it has been linked to prostate cancer.... that is odd because why would it be bad if its in the mother's milk? plus, most of the rbST gets degraded from pasteurization anyway.. also, it becomes inactive in the human body. negative loop feedback also helps control the level of IGH-1 in the blood. oh well. i don't know.. mother's milk also confers antibodies and other immune boosters which helps prevent babies from getting sick until their bodies can produce or acquire antibodies. __________________ Well I was more or less talking about this ridiculous picture-but yes-Breastfeeding is fine-I did it 4 times! Thanks Tuvi-you should work for the La Leche League! __________________ it's especially Important in the first few months after birth as many important immunity factors R transmitted by breastmilk...that said I guess there R pumps but this is already more ascii than I ever thought I would type on this subject ;00 __________________ Boobys R Cool __________________ From recent personal experiences, I've found breast feeding to be quite enjoyable, even for the side that's giving. I don't see why anyone would be against it. Mavi forum