Wednesday, June 6, 2007

hey coleslaw!

How did that debate go?

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Are you being sarcastic? or simpy curious? If you didn't see it, and you have an hour and a half, you can check it out here: http://www.c-span.org/campaign2000 It's under Judicial Watch Third Party Debate.
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gratci!
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It's a shame that Bush declined that debate, forcing Gore to withdraw, followed by Nader and Buchanan. It would have been interesting to hear Bush and Gore talk about government ethics.

[Edited by coleslaw on 10-28-2000 at 12:51 AM]
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that was the BEST debate I saw all year; less BS and more 'out there' comments than any of the 3 bore/gush fests



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"The answer is to reduce government to it's absolute minimum and then we won't care who's in washington"

"Government is good at one thing; it gnows how to break your legs and then hand you a crutch and say 'see, if it weren't for the government you couldn't walk'"

"We are not going to solve the problems created by government by taking the Bill of Rights away from us"

"...it doesn't matter if you do drugs, it doesn't matter if you're a terrorist, YOU are the one whose home could be searched and seized, YOU are the one whose email is being monitored, YOU are the one whose phone could be tapped, YOU are the one whose bank account is being rummaged through by treasury agents. We have the Bill of Rights for a reason, Let's Restore It."
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"The price of freedom is eternal vigilance and I think we had better be vigilant NoW...if we don't stand Firm against the continuous encroachment of the federal government and it's law enforcement agencies into our Individual Rights we will lose those Rights and lose them quickly..."
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Originally posted by for20
that was the BEST debate I saw all year; less BS and more 'out there' comments than any of the 3 bore/gush fests



I have to agree. That debate proved how highly intelligent and ethically-sound the three candidates are. Bush and Gore most likely declined enterring this debate for fear of appearing to be even more ignorant and dimwitted than they are already seen and assumed to be. Howard Phillips and Harry Browne even threw in some jokes here and there, some poking fun at Bush and Gore. It's a shame this debate was not on a major network, but alas, only the politically elite of America care to watch C-span.
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Did anybody else check this out? You owe it to yourself, your intellect, and your country.
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Definitely a good watch
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Has no one else watched this debate? What a shame
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Nope. Not on a 56k modem.
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Nope. Not on a 56k modem.

well u might not be able to see the live nude girlz very well, but it's the audio portion that important anyways...

Mavi forum

DVD Player ?

I am looking at the Toshiba SD-2200 and the Sony DVP-S560D anyone own either one of these two or have any opinions on what to buy?


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I have the Sony, and I love it to death. I havent even seen the toshiba, so I can't compare them. The sony has very good video quality(when matched with a good tv), all the audio components you could want, and other good features. The only one it doesnt have is a zoom feature, but from what I've heard from other people, it's only cool for the first 2 or 3 days, then you never use it again.

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PS2...what I think

Overhyped. It's neat, and it is about on par with Dreamcast, but it's still crap. I'll elaborate:
I rolled over to my local EB on my lunch break. There were some kids hudled around a demo staion (aren't they supposed to be in school?) and watched a couple of clowns playing NHL 2001. It was neat. But that's about it. The graphics were nice, but full of noticeable polygons and there was no antialiasing. The best thing that they had going seemed to be the lighting. It was good and all, but my PC is just as good. And I didn't spend 300+ for a video card...which is what it really is. Save for the DVD capability, but I didn't see a demo of that. The worst thing I saw was on Madden. Two players actually collided through each other. As in player a's arm poking through player b's back. That's just lame. You'd think they would have worked that stuff out by now. So what I think you are paying for is Dreamcast performance + DVD. weeeee. Sign me up.

Blu

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Anybody want to know a secret?

[smiling under breath] This time for real. [/smiling under breath]

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should we guess what the secret is?
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should we guess what the secret is?

not unless your psychic
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maybe i am
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7if7 7your7 7psychic7 7then7 7waht7 7number7 7am7 7I7 7thinking7 7of7 7?7
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TAILS..I SAY TAILS..AM I RIGHT?
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All your secrets are already known!
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All your secrets are already known!


HEY, where did you get a picture of my boyfriend?!?


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Man Chat with GOTMILK (flamers welcome)!

Is this what you had in mind Gotmilk?

You better get going that Oblong is a postin' fool.

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whats going on?
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Just giving you an excuse to post.

And trying to repair your relationship with the flamers you dissed yesterday.
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Just giving you an excuse to post.

And trying to repair your relationship with the flamers you dissed yesterday.

Who are the dissed people youre referring to?
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Your "no flamers" post yesterday, keep up.
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It all happened so fast, I didnt know whether I was coming or going.
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It all happened so fast, I didnt know whether I was coming or going.

I bet that happens to you quite a bit, don't worry.
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It all happened so fast, I didnt know whether I was coming or going.

I bet that happens to you quite a bit, don't worry.

not as often as i would like
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All Man Chats should be taken to ziggyziggy's dudechat. :0)

http://www.dudechat.com
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i take it that ziggyzaggy likes thigh highs and lavender?
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All Man Chats should be taken to ziggyziggy's dudechat. :0)

http://www.dudechat.com

rofl heehehehehe
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dude, that's not fair to set ziggyziggy on gotmilk's ass. No one deserves that fate (and i'm still offended that one of you suggested automatically routing my IP address to dudechat whenever i came to the forums...). I will have my revenge, oh yes, I will have my revenge.
ProMinx

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Baseball sucks....

Just my opinion, I dont see who would actually sit through the whole game for 9 long innings.

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Word to that. Most boring spectator sport after, like, cricket.
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i never actually *watch* the game. just flip through it to see the score, and maybe see an out or two.

i would go out of my mind watching the whole thing.

and i live in NYC, so i had to be excited about the subway series.

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baseball is the sport of the past... watch it fade away as its fans die off in large numbers in the next few years

oh yeah.... it sucks donkey dicks too
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I completely agree, I always hated baseball. It such a slow and boring game. My god when they take off the simpsons to show the world series it drives me nuts.
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my hub plays rugby..does that count?
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my hub plays rugby..does that count?

I play rugby, or at least used to. How you can compare the two, I miss the connection.
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my hub plays rugby..does that count?

I play rugby, or at least used to. How you can compare the two, I miss the connection.


yeah, rugby's more like football, and footballs ok
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football is even more mind numbingly boring!

they only do stuff for like 30 seconds at a time, and then you have to wait 15 minutes more for another 30 seconds of action!
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Baseball is THE most boring sport. THE. Football is better, but I think the nothing beats a good basketball game.
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i agree.
watching (or playing) basketball is the most fun.
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Sure . . . baseball sucks if you have a short attention span and don't understand the game. People said baseball was dead in the 60's when football first became really popular . . . Then they said it was dead in the late 80s and early 90s when basketball seemed to be dominating the minds of people and Michael Jordan was dominating basketball . . . but baseball is still alive and kickin' quite nicely . . . always will be.
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Sure . . . baseball sucks if you have a short attention span and don't understand the game. People said baseball was dead in the 60's when football first became really popular . . . Then they said it was dead in the late 80s and early 90s when basketball seemed to be dominating the minds of people and Michael Jordan was dominating basketball . . . but baseball is still alive and kickin' quite nicely . . . always will be.


I'll be the first to admit my attention span is kinda short. BUT That doesn't change the fact that baseball is a very very very very slow game. I understand the game I just think its boring, there isn't that much action.
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I remember watching the Red Sox vs the Indians in last years playoff (the one when both teams were scoring like mad until Pedro Martinez strikes out most of the Indians when he comes off the bench (he had been injured))

That game was awesome. Haven't watched a good game since though.

I agree Basketball is good to watch. Soccer is too (seriously :lol)
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I remember watching the Red Sox vs the Indians in last years playoff (the one when both teams were scoring like mad until Pedro Martinez strikes out most of the Indians when he comes off the bench (he had been injured))

That game was awesome. Haven't watched a good game since though.

I agree Basketball is good to watch. Soccer is too (seriously :lol)


Soccers cool, i've been to 2 games and they're pretty fun
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Soccer is a bunch of little wusses running around kicking a ball. C'mon play a real mans sport would ya already!

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Yankee WON THE WORLD SERIES!

Woo hoo!

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Good! No more baseball for 6 months!
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good.. they paid enough for it...
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well someone had to win
might as well be the yanks!!

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lalalallalalaaaaaaaa

HEY..LOOSAH MUST BE GETTING LAID BY NOW..lucky gal *sulk*.....even chosenfool isnt here..GOTMILK is ignoring me..and that damn squirel keeps creeping up my ass..I think I am goin to bed.

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MY GOD I missed you darling..where have you been?
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well anyway..sweet dreams..I going to bed.......
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I don't like some of the newbies the post to much for no reason. They need to know when enough is enough
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the squirrel likes no ass but his own
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i thought people usually used hamsters near the backdoor...not that i would know.
PM
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HEY..LOOSAH MUST BE GETTING LAID BY NOW..lucky gal *sulk*.....even chosenfool isnt here..GOTMILK is ignoring me..and that damn squirel keeps creeping up my ass..I think I am goin to bed.

I dont ignore anybody. I work from 9am - 6pm and dont use my computer at home because its to slow, waiting on dsl or cable.
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cable is lovely-unless the cable gets knocked out by storms..so have a back up dial up..but you knew that..its ok..I know YOU WOULD NEVER IGNORE anyone. *wipes off big sharp knife on hairy chest*.............. (*STALK STALK STALK*.. I did send you that email about the pix btw..let me know if you want them. Worst scenario is that I send them one at a time..AND GOD I WOULD HATE THAT.
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haha, felching.
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cause gotmilk works hard for the money so hard for the money
gotmilk works hard for the so there is no time to post

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chosenfool......

where are you? it's too quiet.......OH BTW..ABBRA SAID HELLO TO ALL YOU CHEEKY MONKEYS OUT THERE..SHE IS INDISPOSED TONITE HAVING HER HEAD EXAMINED. Actually she is getting her boobs done..but SHHHHHHHH.!!!!!!

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LOL.....'NO COMMENT'...
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Originally posted by chosenfool
fiddling around with my new digital camera (sweet little mama!!) it arrived in 2 days too...very fast!

this fuji finepix 1400 zoom rocks!

for the price it aint a bad deal at all, plus the $50 rebate...pictures are great, very simple controls...not your high end, professional grade camera, but for someone who's had enough of slow speed, so-so digital camera quality, im just loving it! USB, zoom, LCD (which i never had before), smartmedia (which i have plenty of already)...man, im just all over the place with this thing! oops, time to recharge them NiMH batteries!

...and the possibilities of my very own porn...

heh heh heh...



Chosen are you going to send us some pics of your package?
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Originally posted by chosenfool
fiddling around with my new digital camera (sweet little mama!!) it arrived in 2 days too...very fast!

this fuji finepix 1400 zoom rocks!

for the price it aint a bad deal at all, plus the $50 rebate...
If you don't mind me asking, how much did you pay for it?

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Guys, Wazzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzupppp, NO DEALS?!?!?!

It's been like couple of days, and no deals going on... what's happening now a days... all these .com companies are dying slowly or something.....!? We gotta try harder and maybe go out of US and into Europe maybe to look for good deals... hehehe... take care all.

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C'mon man, have u been reading? Its all about the ps2 and will continue to be for a few more days. I think once the ps2 rush ends, deal hunting will resume
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Cooldude is not so cool anymore

Your dissing apex = Not cool
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Cooldude is not so cool anymore

Your dissing apex = Not cool
and posting about how there are no deals isn't helping our "got deals" forum get any more deals!
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Cooldude is not so cool anymore

Your dissing apex = Not cool
and posting about how there are no deals isn't helping our "got deals" forum get any more deals!


and posting about how people are posting about how there are no deals isn't helping our "got deals" forum get any more deals!
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Cooldude is not so cool anymore

Your dissing apex = Not cool
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and posting about how there are no deals isn't helping our "got deals" forum get any more deals!
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and posting about how people are posting about how there are no deals isn't helping our "got deals" forum get any more deals!

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And people posting about people....oh no....I've gone crosseyed.....
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dude, did you retype that whole thing??? You do know there is a quote button!!
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oh......I didn't see the quote button.....but no I didn't retype the whole thing! Copy/paste

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i am not dissing Apex, apex is cool... i have more posting then any of you anyway, so chill out... peace.
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i am not dissing Apex, apex is cool... i have more posting then any of you anyway, so chill out... peace.


its FREEZING HERE.

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Teleportation?

Photon Experiments

from http://www.howthingswork.com

In 1993, the idea of teleportation moved out of the realm of science fiction and into the world of theoretical possibility. It was then that physicist Charles Bennett and a team of researchers at IBM confirmed that quantum teleportation was possible, but only if the original object being teleported was destroyed. This revelation, first announced by Bennett at an annual meeting of the American Physical Society in March 1993, was followed by a report on his findings in the March 29, 1993 issue of Physical Review Letters. Since that time, experiments using photons have proven that quantum teleportation is in fact possible.
In 1998, physicists at the California Institute of Technology (Caltech), along with two European groups, turned the IBM ideas into reality by successfully teleporting a photon, a particle of energy that carries light. The Caltech group was able to read the atomic structure of a photon, send this information across one meter (3.28 feet) of coaxial cable and create a replica of the photon. As predicted, the original photon no longer existed once the replica was made.

In performing their experiment, the Caltech group was able to get around the Heisenberg Uncertainty Principle, the main barrier for teleportation of objects larger than a photon. This principle states that you cannot simultaneously know the location and the speed of a particle. But if you can't know the position of a particle, then how can you teleport it? In order to teleport a photon without violating the Heisenberg Principle, the Caltech physicists used a phenomenon known as entanglement. In entanglement, at least three photons are needed to achieve quantum teleportation:

Photon A: The photon to be teleported.
Photon B: The transporting photon.
Photon C: The photon that is entangled with photon B.

If researchers tried to look too closely at photon A without entanglement, they would bump it, and thereby change it. By entangling photons B and C, researchers can extract some information about photon A, and the remaining information would be passed on to B by way of entanglement, and then onto photon C. When researchers apply the information from photon A to photon C, they can create an exact replica of photon A. However, photon A no longer exists as it did before the information was sent to photon C.

In other words, when Captain Kirk beams down to an alien planet, an analysis of his atomic structure is passed through the transporter room to his desired location, where a replica of Kirk is created and the original is destroyed.
While the idea of creating replicas of objects and destroying the originals doesn't sound too inviting for humans, quantum teleportation does hold promise for quantum computing. These experiments with photons are important in developing networks that can distribute quantum information. Professor Samuel Braunstein, of the University of Wales, Bangor, called such a network a "quantum Internet." This technology may be used one day to build a quantum computer that has data transmission rates many times more advanced than today's most powerful computers.

for more go to http://www.howthingswork.com/teleportation2.htm

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I just hope it won't be running on WinNT; that could be messy
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I just hope it won't be running on WinNT; that could be messy

yeah, that gives a whole new meaning to "Blue Screen of Death"
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yeah...mircoshaft stuff for sure ...

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The Caltech group was able to read the atomic structure of a photon, send this information across one meter (3.28 feet) of coaxial cable and create a replica of the photon. As predicted, the original photon no longer existed once the replica was made.

How can photons have atomic structure if they are supposed to be mass-less quanta of energy? I'm not questioning those Caltech's experiment, just the article's scientific accuracy. Any physists out there that can elaborate?
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The Caltech group was able to read the atomic structure of a photon, send this information across one meter (3.28 feet) of coaxial cable and create a replica of the photon. As predicted, the original photon no longer existed once the replica was made.

How can photons have atomic structure if they are supposed to be mass-less quanta of energy? I'm not questioning those Caltech's experiment, just the article's scientific accuracy. Any physists out there that can elaborate?


hehehe

your right, photons ARE NOT ATOMS hence they have no atomic structure.
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The Caltech group was able to read the atomic structure of a photon, send this information across one meter (3.28 feet) of coaxial cable and create a replica of the photon. As predicted, the original photon no longer existed once the replica was made.

How can photons have atomic structure if they are supposed to be mass-less quanta of energy? I'm not questioning those Caltech's experiment, just the article's scientific accuracy. Any physists out there that can elaborate?

Not exactly a physicist, but the subject does fascinate me. I believe this is just a semantic error. Photons are composed of the same quanta that electrons, protons, and neutrons are composed of, I'm guessing. So while a photon doesn't have atomic structure, it does have quantum structure.

The fact that quanta are mass-less shouldn't mean much anymore, since we've all heard by now the E=Mc2 (don't know my superscript codes).
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I just hope it won't be running on WinNT; that could be messy

yeah, that gives a whole new meaning to "Blue Screen of Death"

are you kidding? If I hear or see or Smell the word Microsoft or Windows within a 10mile radius of a "transporter", you won't be able to Pay me enough to go through it!
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The Caltech group was able to read the atomic structure of a photon, send this information across one meter (3.28 feet) of coaxial cable and create a replica of the photon. As predicted, the original photon no longer existed once the replica was made.

How can photons have atomic structure if they are supposed to be mass-less quanta of energy? I'm not questioning those Caltech's experiment, just the article's scientific accuracy. Any physists out there that can elaborate?

Not exactly a physicist, but the subject does fascinate me. I believe this is just a semantic error. Photons are composed of the same quanta that electrons, protons, and neutrons are composed of, I'm guessing. So while a photon doesn't have atomic structure, it does have quantum structure.

The fact that quanta are mass-less shouldn't mean much anymore, since we've all heard by now the E=Mc2 (don't know my superscript codes).

first off...NO! photons are not made of the same quanta that make up electrons, protons, and neutrons. In fact, even electrons aren't made of the same quanta as protons and neutrons. First off, Protons and Neutrons are made up of "up" and "down" quarks (an "up" has a charge of +2/3 and a down has a charge of -1/3), while leptons (electrons and neutrinos) are made of another quantized particle that I haven't studied yet, so maybe i'll tell you about these later, but back to photons... Photons aren't even really considered to be elements of mass or anything. Photons are just "energy carriers". They are the particles that carry electromagnetic force, and as such...are not made of quarks or whatever.

And second off...if sciententists wanted to prove that teleportation was possible...why didn't they study electrons instead of photons? Electrons naturally travel in jumps from point A to point B without ever having occupied any of the area between A and B, so it would be natural to study electrons instead of photons...

ProMinx
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Hmmm... Teleportation is very interesting. It might even be able to prove whether or a person has a soul, don't you think?

Say, if a person has a soul, and if a soul is not a physical property, then it can't be teleported. What you get on the other side of the teleport device is a human vegetable.

Any thoughts?
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Hmmm... Teleportation is very interesting. It might even be able to prove whether or a person has a soul, don't you think?

Say, if a person has a soul, and if a soul is not a physical property, then it can't be teleported. What you get on the other side of the teleport device is a human vegetable.

Any thoughts?


ROFL

so true
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Hmmm... Teleportation is very interesting. It might even be able to prove whether or a person has a soul, don't you think?

Say, if a person has a soul, and if a soul is not a physical property, then it can't be teleported. What you get on the other side of the teleport device is a human vegetable.

Any thoughts?

If human teleportation worked and the person remained the same, then it would prove different...that mind and body are inseperable. Then the 'soul' would be physical chemistry inside the body.
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Hmmm... Teleportation is very interesting. It might even be able to prove whether or a person has a soul, don't you think?

Say, if a person has a soul, and if a soul is not a physical property, then it can't be teleported. What you get on the other side of the teleport device is a human vegetable.

Any thoughts?

Hey not too different than watching tv fer 30 years

seriously, tv's modus operendi is to present realities so fifth rate that the soul literally has to shut down within the first few minutes of bombardment

with that said though, the soul is always around waiting to come back if the mind will make the free will choice to not subject itself to such utter tripe on a continual basis.

U can shove that 'chemical' analysis of the human soul where the sun don't shine; it's about the vibe

;0)

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For all your metal, ozzy, and hrad rock fans....

Okay my roomate, not the shower pig a differnt cooler one, has made a web site and would like a couple extra hits on it. if anyone is bored or has time or whatever check it out and eave something on the msg board for him and say what you think or leave a post in here too. His name is mike
and the site is at
http://www.geocities.com/ozzify
thanx all

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DONE..my pleas.
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been there, done that.

suggetion to him: Take metallicrap off the site.
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Oh my god... My Eyes are bleeding, what poor coding.

Maybe spelling too?

My intrests include all types of music, both lostening to and playing on my guitar, playing cards, and having fun with friends.

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Does your roomie have a mullet by any chance?


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My intrests include all types of music, both lostening to and playing on my guitar, playing cards, and having fun with friends.


ummmm... ok thanks for the update. do you like his webpage so much that you want him to make one about you or something?
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been there, done that.

suggetion to him: Take metallicrap off the site.

good suggestion. metalliCRAP indeed.
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no its not taht i like his page so much
he was just wondering why he wasnt getting any hits even by random cahnce so i thought i would help him out a bit and advertise
its called being a friend so bite me
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Mullets Rule!

http://www.mulletsgalore.com/

So do Denim jackets, and old IROCZ's
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no its not taht i like his page so much
he was just wondering why he wasnt getting any hits even by random cahnce so i thought i would help him out a bit and advertise
its called being a friend so bite me
huh? where'd that come from?!
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Mullets Rule!

http://www.mulletsgalore.com/

So do Denim jackets, and old IROCZ's

Do not forget Winston ciggs, sweatpants with work boots and NASCAR.

WOOHOOOOO, and savin for a double wide.
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Loosah? having those white trash fantasies again?????
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Mullets Rule!

http://www.mulletsgalore.com/

So do Denim jackets, and old IROCZ's

Do not forget Winston ciggs, sweatpants with work boots and NASCAR.

WOOHOOOOO, and savin for a double wide.

And don't forget the crystal meth, either.
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Loosah? having those white trash fantasies again?????

Hell yes, I am trying to get a prisoner pen pal thing going too.

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Woohoo!! 143 People in forums at one time!

Wow, loads of people. Hehe. Wonder how long it'll take to hit 200?

http://www.gotapex.com/images/forums_143.gif

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Congratulations for runing a VERY successful and popular web page/forum, Apex. You're the man!
ProMinx
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Yeah, actually, I don't think I've every thanked you for the work you put into this site. Kind of like an addict thanking the pusher for supplying him with more stuff!

By the way, you should make it a habit of checking the "newest member" thing on the main page. I swear, it changes every 20 minutes now...
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WELL,,you know they all followed me here don't you! hahahahahahahahahahaaaaaahaaaaaaaaahaaaaaaahaaaaaaa
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Is that the new Logo? it looks cool, is that on the T-Shirts?
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Yea
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of coarse my name is on there lol hehehehe
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Apex was so excited he circled the number on his monitors screen.
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i'm so proud of u apex
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Heh, thanks everyone. Yeah, that logo will be on the t-shirt, but will be monochromatic. That may change in later orders.

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