What do you like doing the most?

Me, I cant talk about it here. __________________ ...and closer ;0) __________________ ha! __________________ riding my motorcycle in the mountains of colorado (oh, I almost forgot... gotta have a babe on the back seat too )

Rear Admiral Lower Half

The lower half- That's where the Rear is located the last time I checked! Is that a real title in the Navy? What's next (2500? 3000? etc...) __________________ Yep that is an offical navy rank. After that you have: Rear Admiral (upper half) 2 Star Vice Admiral 3 Stars Admiral 4 Stars Fleet Admiral 5 Stars (Only War Time...So Lets Start A War!) ~NiceMann __________________ Officer on deck! 'tention! __________________ I look up to spigidygak's lower half now! no way! __________________ Hehe Coleslaw.....we all report to Spidys lower half. ~NiceMann __________________ heh... Spidy takes it in the a.... err.. lower half. Reports, that is. __________________ Alright, all you scrubs. That'll be 400 for me and cleaning the head with your tongue! What kind of respect do you have to your one and only admirial?!?! That's lower rear. . .oh god. . . I need to get promoted out of this title. . . __________________ LOL __________________ Man, this ranking gets kind of confusing unless you know the offical navel ranks. Anyway, this lower half sounds weird. __________________ I want my head sparkling like the chrome on a '57 Chevy! __________________ Spigidy has to much power it has gone to his head already. Someone pop his bubble before someone ****s on his little parade. __________________ spigidygak can't be the only one with power, doesnt aj or somebody have alsmot if not 2g posts too? __________________ it's just me and hapoo as captains now __________________ ...Kevin Mitnick ever held that position? ;0) __________________ dang...how long have you guys been here to get all those posts? I joined this gotapex crowd sometime around the end of the schol year. 2 more posts after this and I get promoted to Lieutenant Junior Grade! Someone give me a reason to make 2 more posts so I can get promoted faster! Does anyone know where the next promotions in rank are at? How many posts and what rank is it? Thanks __________________ Somewhere between navel and lower half!

Is this quite possible at all?

http://www.ananova.com/news/story/sm_61797.html Can a frog really control it's metabolism? __________________ Some animals can. __________________ yeah it is possible, there are frogs that freeze in winter time and thaw out in spring and are still alive cause they inject anti-freeze into their blood stream. __________________ I can regulate my metabolism. I have to for my jobs. I am the Chief Enhancement Lecturer (CEL) of Some Can't Always Reject Food (SCARF, formerly Overeaters Anonymous) and Eat N' Throw (ENT, formerly Bulimics Anonymous).

Ponzi Schemes?

What the He|l is that? Dictionary.com didn't have it, the closest was PONTI in acronym finder: We didn't want the definition of Stoned: PONTI = Person Of No Tactical Importance __________________ Ponzi? I believe that stands for "piss on New Zealand's irrigation." or was it "putrid or no zest inmate?" __________________ A Ponzi scheme, named after Charles Ponzi who defrauded people in the 1920s using the method, involves getting people to invest in something for a guaranteed rate of return and using the money of later investors to pay off the earlier ones. Who will make money from such a scheme? Those who start it and those who get in early. Does anyone really make money from these schemes. They must, or they would have died off long ago. How? If I start the scheme, I just skim off the top and pay off enough people to make it look like it's working, even if that means buying in again at the bottom. I might even be stupid enough to think that I can keep the scheme going when the recruiting has dried up. I can try to get money quickly by some other scheme. For example, I can take a big chunk of money and go to Las Vegas and hope to hit it big. This happened to a fellow I played Little League Baseball with long before we both grew up. He took his investors' money to the craps table where he "invested" their funds. Unfortunately, his "investments" didn't pay off and he went to prison. I don't know how many people lost money "investing" in my Little League buddy's scheme, but it could not have been as bad as what happened in Romania in 1993 or what is happening in Albania in 1997. In both cases, thousands of people with little opportunity for investment of capital were swindled by pyramid scheme operators. Romania's newspapers claimed that millions of Romanians lost their life savings in a scheme called Caritas. Reports from Albania claim that hundreds of thousands of Albanians "have invested their life savings or money they earned working abroad" in one of several outlawed pyramid schemes. "The schemes offered very high interest rates, with the first investors paid from later investors' deposits. They eventually failed when no new investors came in"("Investment-scam protest turns violent in Albania," by Merita Dhimgjoka, Sacramento Bee, Feb. 6, 1977). Any such scheme is doomed to fail because there cannot be an endless line of" investors." Only greed and self-deception are endless. ~~~~ from the skeptic's dictionary __________________ exactly what I was saying. __________________ don't you mean Fonzi? __________________ Four words: Rhino Point dot Com __________________ Social Security __________________ What renots said.

Quick! Name...

10 facts about south carolina are U listin mann? ;0) __________________ In prehistory, many Native American peoples lived in South Carolina. Starting about 900 years ago the Mississippian culture, also called Mound Builders, flourished in this region. The Mississippians built great temple mounds, and some can still be seen today. Major nations in the state in 1600 were the Cherokee, of the Iroquoian language stock; the Catawba, speaking a Siouan language; and the Yamasee, speaking a Muskogean language. In 1715 the Yamasee led other peoples in the Yamasee War (1715-1716) against the English settlers. The Yamasee were defeated and driven out of South Carolina. The Cherokee began warring against the settlers about 1760 and sided with the British in the American Revolution (1775-1783). All but a few Cherokee left the state after the revolution. Cited: MSE 2000 __________________ It's South of North Carolina. __________________ It's warmer than North Carolina __________________ The proud blue banner carried by the valiant men of the regiment led by Lt. Col. Francis Marion during the Battle of Savannah is one of the various Revolutionary War objects on exhibit at the South Carolina State Museum in Columbia. The movie “The Patriot” captures the spirit, the violence and the beautiful scenery that were part of the War for Independence in South Carolina, but sometimes it plays a little loose with the facts. At the museum, visitors can learn more about the real story of the Palmetto State’s role in the rebellion that shook the world. The flag was presented to the 2nd South Carolina Regiment in 1776 after its heroic defense of the palmetto-log fort on Sullivan’s Island that was later renamed “Fort Moultrie.” A two-thirds-size reproduction of part of that fort is on exhibit with an examination of how images from the battle have become symbols of South Carolina. Marion led his troops in an equally heroic – but less successful – battle at Savannah in October 1779. The flag was captured by British troops and remained in the family of the commander until 1989 when it was purchased by the Smithsonian Institution’s National Museum of American History and the State Museum. In May 1780, after a 42-day siege, British forces captured Charleston. Marion was outside the city recovering from a broken ankle and never took the oath of allegiance to the Crown. When he recovered, he put together a band of militia soldiers – they would be called “guerrillas” today – and began one of the more interesting chapters of the war. “Although he was one of the more renowned Revolutionary War leaders, he is somewhat shrouded in mystery,” says Dr. Fritz Hamer, the museum’s chief curator of history. “We have some knowledge of his exploits, and he played a pivotal role in forcing the British out of South Carolina and indirectly ending British rule in the nation.” Marion, who became known as the “Swamp Fox,” led his troops in attacks on convoys and generally made life miserable for the occupying forces. They lived off the land with the support of sympathetic Americans, Hamer says. After attacking the British, Marion’s men melted into the swamps from Berkeley and Clarendon counties to Florence and Dillon counties. “The enemy could have easily crushed him if they could have found him,” Hamer says. However, the British and the Tories, their American supporters, knew little about the swamps of the Pee Dee. The museum is exhibiting a silver spoon bearing the initials “FM” that is believed to have belonged to Marion. Also on exhibit is a miniature portrait that was passed down through the generations of the Marion family as an image of the Revolutionary War leader. Close examination of the dress and age of the sitter indicate it is probably a picture of his nephew and adopted son, Francis Marion Dwight, Hamer says. Both objects, as well as a glass decanter, are on loan from descendants of the Marion family. Weapons made in the 1770s of the kind that were used by both sides also are on exhibit. Above them is a mural of Gen. Nathanael Greene leading his troops through the snow, a representation of the hardships endured by colonial troops in winter, 1780-81. One of the benefits of “The Patriot” is that it may result in a greater appreciation of the role South Carolina played in the American Revolution, Hamer says. More battles were fought here than in any other state. The British had been told there were many Loyalists in the colony and anticipated it would be relatively easy to subdue the rebels once Charleston fell. Initially that was true, Hamer says, but the British wasted a lot of resources trying to hold the colony. They overestimated the number of Tories and managed to offend many South Carolinians who were inclined to remain loyal to the Crown. There were British atrocities, Hamer says, but the Americans could be just as vicious. Gen. Thomas Sumter was regarded as a hot head, even by people like Marion, he says. Because the Tories felt the British didn’t protect them or properly punish the rebels who harassed them, the Crown lost support in South Carolina. Hamer says he can understand why modern-day Englishmen are upset about “The Patriot’s” depiction of their predecessors. However, “I’m glad that it puts the Revolution into the public eye after all the time we’ve put in on the Civil War.” __________________ One of the thirteen original colonies, South Carolina has had a rich and varied history. When Spanish and French explorers arrived in the area in the 16th century, they found a land inhabited by many small tribes of Native Americans, the largest of which were the Cherokees and the Catawbas. The first European attempts at settlement failed, but in 1670 a permanent English settlement was established on the coast near present day Charleston. The colony, named Carolina after King Charles I, was divided in 1710 into South Carolina and North Carolina. Settlers from the British Isles, France, and other parts of Europe built plantations throughout the coastal lowcountry, growing profitable crops of rice and indigo. African slaves were brought into the colony in large numbers to provide labor for the plantations, and by 1720 they formed the majority of the population. The port city of Charleston became an important center of commerce and culture. The interior or upcountry, meanwhile, was being slowly settled by small farmers and traders, who pushed the dwindling tribes of Native Americans to the west. By the time of the American Revolution, South Carolina was one of the richest colonies in America. Its merchants and planters formed a strong governing class, contributing many leaders to the fight for independence. More Revolutionary War battles and skirmishes were fought in South Carolina than any other state, including major engagements at Sullivan's Island, Camden, Kings Mountain , and Cowpens. South Carolina ratified the United States Constitution on May 23, 1788, becoming the eighth state to enter the union. In the following years the state grew and prospered. With the invention of the cotton gin, cotton became a major crop, particularly in the upcountry. A new capital city, Columbia , was founded in the center of the state, reducing somewhat the political power of the lowcountry elite. Dissatisfaction with the federal government and its tariff policies grew during this period, however. In the 1820s South Carolinian John C. Calhoun developed the theory of nullification, by which a state could reject any federal law it considered to be a violation of its rights. Armed conflict was avoided during this period, but by 1860 tensions between the state and the federal government reached a climax. Unhappy over restrictions on free trade and about calls for the abolition of slavery, South Carolina seceded from the union on December 20, 1860, the first of the Southern states to do so. When Confederate troops fired on Fort Sumter in Charleston Harbor on April 12, 1861, the nation plunged into Civil War. The Civil War and its aftermath were devastating for South Carolina. The state lost nearly one fifth of the white male population, and its economy was shattered. The final blow came in early 1865 when General William T. Sherman marched his troops through South Carolina, burning plantations and most of the city of Columbia. The Reconstruction period that followed the war was marked by general economic, social, and political upheaval. The former white leaders found themselves without money or political power, while the large population of freed slaves sought to improve their economic and political positions. When federal troops were withdrawn in 1877, white conservatives led by Governor Wade Hampton were able to take control of state government once again. The economy continued to suffer in the years that followed, however. Cotton prices were low, and the plantation system that had brought South Carolina such wealth was dead. Populist reforms in the 1890s brought more political power to small white farmers, but African Americans were disenfranchised and increasingly segregated. By the beginning of the 20th century, South Carolina was starting to recover economically. The textile industry began to develop first, then in the years that followed other manufacturers moved into the state, providing jobs and economic stability. In recent years tourism has become a major industry, as travelers discovered the state's beaches and mountains. On September 21, 1989 Hurricane Hugo struck the coast, causing great damage to homes, businesses, and natural areas, but the state has made a remarkable recovery in the ensuing years. The second half of the 20th century has also brought enormous change in the status of black South Carolinians. The civil rights movement of the 1960s brought a relatively peaceful end to segregation and legal discrimination. The most serious incident of this period occurred in 1968 at Orangeburg, where three black protesters were shot by state police. Two years later three African Americans were elected to the state legislature, and many others have subsequently served in state and local offices. As the century draws to a close, all of South Carolina's citizens are able to participate in the state's government and economy. __________________ ...from NiceMann?

Oman?

Anyone ever been to Oman? I am interested in visiting! I am sure Renots being 1200 years old would love to visit this place before he is stricken to his death bed. Anyway I will make plans for the GotApex conference in Sur, I suppose we could run a contest like the first 5000 membershere go courtsey of the Omaniai Tourism board... Even though the government is a monarchy they run a strick Western trade agreement, with Rial Omani = US$2.58 you can see. I am sure we could bring back some crude oil too. [Edited by AmRivlin on 09-19-2000 at 12:05 AM

JstSyNo! to another cold war

http://ic.voxcap.com/issues/issue402/item10370.asp Beware Another Cold War by R. Thomas Berner Monday, September 18, 2000 Just before the Democrats showed up in Los Angeles, several newspapers carried stories about a classified intelligence report that suggested how other countries might react if the United States created a missile shield. The reaction in a sound bite: an international arms race. Two countries that would respond as mightily as they could are Russia and China. There is some doubt that the Russian economy could support a massive build up, but China is another matter. It probably could afford to build a system that would thwart the U.S. missile shield, although it is difficult to imagine why the Chinese would be firing missiles at the United States in the first place. Think butter, not guns That scenario aside, we need to view China not as a future enemy but as an ally. As news accounts about the missile shield stated, if China builds its arsenal in response to what we do, India and Pakistan are sure to follow and North Korea may go it alone regardless. Rather than having China leading an arms race, we should be helping China lead a growth and prosperity race. Forget the guns of Asia; let's focus on the butter. The Chinese are a great people who are part of a re-emerging great nation -- a nation more stable today than it has been in 25 years, a nation so stable that a Muscovite who lived in our apartment complex when I taught in Beijing in 1994 expressed relief that he was in China, not Russia. And it is the Chinese people that I am worried about, for I fear that their government's missile build up will not be part of a "guns and butter" budget but just "guns." The Chinese people will suffer. Statistics gleaned from various sources, including the United Nations, speak to the economic conditions in China. China has a 32:68 ratio of urban to rural (read: poor) population, compared with our 77:23 ratio, and a per-capita income of slightly less than $1,000 to our per-capita income of more than $30,000. And while China claims to have a lower unemployment rate than ours, many of those employed hold "jobs" in uncompetitive state-owned enterprises that are slowly being phased out. Forgetting the past In other words, China does not have an economy that can support the development of the population and an arms build up. If China does react to a U.S. missile shield as predicted, it could go bankrupt and become unstable. Do we really want to bankrupt China the way we did Russia? The Russians were unrepentant communists; China is not the new evil empire. Although China will never be the democratic Christian country some in the United States would like, it is evolving, unlike Russia. Consider what China has done. During the same week the news media carried stories about the missile shield, they also reported that Japan’s foreign minister had visited Beijing and that the two countries vowed they would remain peaceful partners -- and this despite still deep-rooted anger toward Japan for not yet fully apologizing for atrocities against the Chinese in World War II. One newspaper account said the Chinese not only had not raised the subject of the atrocities but also said nothing about U.S.-Japanese plans for a regional missile shield. And the Chinese delegation that welcomed the foreign minister was high level rather than mid-level, another sign of China’s desire to forge a positive relationship. Earlier this month, furthermore, Japan asked China’s support in setting up talks with North Korea as a step toward normalizing relations. Couple that with the role China played in getting the two Koreas together and it is easy to see what constructive role China can play in Asia, if not the world. Why jeopardize that by building a missile shield of dubious need? A warning for the next president Sadly, talk of a missile shield arises during a presidential campaign, and we already know that the candidates from the major parties favor the idea, although they disagree on the degree. The fact that President Clinton postponed a decision on the shield for the next president could ratchet up the campaign rhetoric in negative and unconstructive ways. Will Gore and Bush now use China as a whipping boy to show they are tough on defense? If they do, they will be making a major mistake. The United States enters the new century from a position of technical and moral strength. But it is the moral strength by which the world will judge us. Demonizing China over a technical issue would be an immoral act. A professor of journalism and American studies at the Pennsylvania State University, R. Thomas Berner has lived in China and visited the country several times since. Should U.S. policymakers do more to make China a friend rather than a potentially threatening enemy? How have Gore and Bush handled the missile-defense issue thus far? COMMENTS 9/18/00 3:16:22 PM Kenny In my recent trip to China I saw signs that their economy will soon be booming. They had reversed a punitive fee (IIRC, aabout US $40,000) on entrepreneurs, and were hard at it upgrading their telecommunications capabilities. Every street corner had someone repairing a store front, tiling over broken concrete, painting new signs, etc. IMO, they are moving towards capitalism. That means, if I read my tea leaves correctly, that they will soon have lots more goverenment revenues, even if they never raise taxes. Even if they lower taxes. // We should try to establish good relations with China, but we also need to be clear about the lines we've drawn in the sand. that probably means, after 8 years of Clinton, that we need to revisit our philosophy about foreign policy in general, and about China specifically. If we stand firm on human rights issues, then we have to reverse our favored nation status with China. 9/18/00 4:32:24 PM Brett Bellmore bellmore@tir.com Excuse me, but WE did not bankrupt Russia, RUSSIA bankrupted Russia. It was a classic judo type move, turning their aggressive impulses against them; Had they not been so determined to retain the power to obliterate us, they could have retained their second world economy. And it certainly would be nice if China were our ally instead of our enemy, but wouldn't that require them to cease being a totalitarian state with expansionistic aims? Certainly, it would help if they refrained from threatening us with nuclear attack every time we suggest they not invade their neighbors... 9/18/00 4:51:13 PM Kenny Good point Brett. Also, I would argue we should not let the nuclear shield idea be framed as a zero-sum game. That is, if we have it, China and Russai and everyone else lose the game. We may not have been able to frame it as win-win with the USSR but WE CAN frame it that way with China and Russia. To hold to the old notions of us first and us only just might lead to another Cold War. But I don't think it needs to be that way. Not since Nixon went to China anyway, and not since the Berlin Wall came down. It is in everyone's primary interest to avoid the use of any nuclear weapon. Now the loose cannons are the Iraqs and Pakistans of the world. 9/18/00 5:27:48 PM Lich Bret: "China's expansionist aims." Taiwan you mean? Like anyone else, I wish China would recognize Taiwan as a separate country. But they don't, and few are the countries to tolerate separatist territories, as we once didn't ourselves. Has China's threats of force gone beyond Taiwan? __________________ The alternative to not having a missle defense system is to be open to missle attacks by rogue states like North Korea. Of course the liberal left would want the US to be helpless in the face of such an attack. These are the same people who thought the US should have cowered in fear and appeased the Soviets. These same numbskulls who would take away people's right to defend themselves with a firearm. Furthermore the Red Chinese leadership are the ones thinking of America as the enemy. China is going to have to realize that with power comes responsibility. And that means not engaging in aggressive behavior with its small weak neighbors just becuase they are able to do so. __________________ Quote: Originally posted by sbp Furthermore the Red Chinese leadership are the ones thinking of America as the enemy. China is going to have to realize that with power comes responsibility. And that means not engaging in aggressive behavior with its small weak neighbors just becuase they are able to do so. I agree. I would also have to say the US is going to have to realize that with power comes responsibility. And that means not engaging in aggressive behavior with its small weak neighbors just becuase they are able to do so. ;0) __________________ But-but the Canadians like being beat up all the time.

Compugeeks Promise card deal puzzelment.

ummm... I got my package to day and I am currently puzzled. Now it seems to me that the original deal ($13 for a Promise atat66 card-- system pull) had in the description that they were including the ata66 cables. Now-- they have since edited their entry for that card so I can't prove it but I was wondering if anyone else remembers reading that. Perhaps I need more sleep.

Still In Our Prayers

Today marks the Six month anniversary of the passing of my son Brian. Most of the gotapex crew are aware of the loss we have suffered and I'd usually just add a reply to my original post " http://www.gotapex.com/ubb/Forum9/HTML/000040.html " unfortunatly the new forum won't allow that so I'm forced to start a new topic. I spent the most of the day at the cemetary being as close to his side as possible, needless to say sitting graveside is no replacement for his hug which is greatly missed. I drove my bike to the cemetary so I'll bet he could hear me comming although in his short time with us he never got to hear the bike running because I was more occupied with being Daddy than being a Biker. I fondly remember asking him if he'd like to see Daddy get the Bike running again and since he only knew it as the Jungle gym that sat in Daddie's shop he'd tell me "No, Brian's Syko...Rummm Rumm" I used the rest of the day to catch up on my alcohol consumption until time came around to get my other son "Jonathan" from the Bus stop, then off to the Shrink for a little "is that really going to help?" talk. I know Brian is in good company but I'd gladly switch places with him as "life is supposed to be, Children bury their Parents" not the other way around. In Brian's life I know I did all I could to make his time a happy one and at least I can take comfort in the fact that he was a happy Baby but..... God Bless ! __________________ I'm sure I can say this with full confidence that we're all here for your support. I'm sorry that you have to go through life like this, but accidents happen. Everyone is forgiven for their mistakes. If you ever need help, we're here for you . Take care Bloodymess. __________________ I located the old post in the new form, you can delete this thread if you like and refer to the old one, Best of Luck

NASA lied... there is no "cold" in space

When I first started reading the earlier NASA conspiracy thread, I didn't believe it. Now I have been reading more science and things are starting to make sense. The article stated that Space is a near vacuum. As such, with only a minute number of particles, there is no concept of "hot" or "cold" as there are few particles to get energized or de-energized which is the standard definition. The sun is hot and gives off energized particles which travel through space. Space doesn't care because it has no particles to get energized. Neil Armstrong DOES care because his spaceship HAS particles and they get nicely roasted. NASA claims this is not a big deal because the OTHER side of the spaceship is freezing because there is NO heat and then if they just slowly rotate it, it will always stay a reasonable temperature. HOWEVER, this is false. There is no "anti-Sun" which can "give off cold." Therefore the spaceship has two modes: super hot and fairly hot. Rotating it makes Mr. Armstrong just like a flame broiled whopper (cooked on both sides). They also argue that the "air conditioning" is bogus because you need something colder to exchange for the hotter and it is not possible to bring the amount of water needed to generate that sort of cooling onto the moon. I live right down the street from Moffat AFB where they have all the space stuff and do work on AstroBiology. I can stop by and check out some of the suits and stuff (parts are open to the public), but I want input from others. Is this correct? What do I look for? Should I take any pics of the suits and post them? What else is useful to check out? They did have a space capsule and the outer skin was about as thin or thinner than that of an airplane. I guess even minor radiation would penetrate it. If so, why have NONE of the astronauts come down with cancer or radiation sickness? Oh well, now I am a full blown conspiracy nut! __________________ Hey, don't believe everything you read. if there are no particals in space, the temp. would be 0 kelvin. but when there are particles in space, they will heat up from the sun, affecting the temprature to increase. since there is a minute amount of particles, it doesn't heat up much. There is much more than what i am saying, i am just too tired and i just kinda skimmed that chapter in the book. __________________ Let me be more argumentative... If you will let me state that a vacuum thermos and outer space are fairly similar, then I contend that space is NEITHER hot nor cold, but just keeps whatever is in it about the same. EXPANSION OF THE ABOVE: Put hot chocolate (of coffee) in vacuum thermos. Wait a while then drink a bit and reseal. Repeat. Observe that the heat loss is not very great while sealed in the thermos. This would indicate that either the thermos is heating the coffee or it is simply not accepting its heat (which would cool it). The next day, fill the thermos with ice cubes. Observe at various times that they barely melt. This would indicate that either the thermos is cooling the ice or is simply not adding heat (shielding it from the outside room which is warmer). Taken in combination, this means that the vacuum is NEITHER cold nor hot, but only the outside force affects it (but does not really affect the vacuum itself, just the objects inside) __________________ ...is you could be simultaneously roasting your front side whike freezing your ass off at the same time ;0) __________________ That is the OPPOSITE of what I was saying. I am saying that with nothing to cool off Neil Armstrong, he would be roasted on BOTH sides, just one a bit more toasty than the other. Now I am really beginning to question everything! What is the deal with the space suits? I mean the face mask is just glass with a thin layer of gold. Radiation would zap right through that puppy. I mean, here on earth we have an atmosphere and an ozone layer, but no such thing on the moon. Astronauts would have irradiated faces when they returned, but none did (because they were just on a Soundstage). Please convince me I am wrong and that we really did go into space. __________________ Quote: Originally posted by TheLoneGunman Please convince me I am wrong and that we really did go into space. ...is watch the Apollo Landing footage 47 times in a row repeating to yourself "look they landed on the moon" until you believe ;0) __________________ actually, it wasnt a sound stage but my backyard.....if u want i can send u the miniature land rovers and the fake footsteps __________________ There is one way too cool that you forgot. Ever use a compressed air can?? notice when you release the air the can gets damn cold. Well thats cause it takes heat from its surroundings when the pressure is lowered. This is one way to cool yourself down in space. Simply by releasing a previously compressed gas. __________________ ...and now I totally agree. Rodney was clearly throwing himself against the pavement and hurling his face into the batons of the police. It was all they could do to keep him from killing himself. __________________ Happo, I think you are on to something. They brought up a FOURTH astronaut on each mission. As the vacuum of space caused him to explode, the previously compressed gasses in his body served to cool down the remaining astronauts. I think this explains Buzz Aldrin's comment when asked about what it took to get to the moon and he said "3 fat guys filled with a lot of air"

Alien Conspiracy? You make the call!

from the friendly folks at central intelligence Rumor Mill News Read Only Forum Posted By: Shadow Date: Saturday, 16 September 2000, 5:17 p.m. The following information was emailed to me just today, and if you will read what is here you will begin to see what is the truth, and what is fiction about a lot of things that have been covered up over the years by our own U.S. Government, and why we have achieved the fantastic level of technology in the past 100 or so years after being basically primitive for Thousands of years! Some of this information was leaked to the producers of the Television Show "Dark Skies", which was pulled after being on for just a few seasons and is still running on cable stations, the Sci-Fi Channel. I believe that most of the following is true, and can be validated just by doing research on the internet since this information has been recently declassified. The Greys and the Earth Agenda A 1995 Alex Collier Lecture Interaction Between Gizeh Group and Nazi Germany The Greys made contact with a world governmental body for the first time in 1931. This was in Germany. The Greys were however turned away by the German government, because it had already committed itself to involvement with the Gizeh intelligence. Now, I don't know if you know who Gizeh intelligence is, but I will tell you that it is a renegade group of human extraterrestrials that were headquartered under the Gizeh plateau in Egypt. They were predominantly Pleiadians at the time. Ashtar was part of that group, Kamagol was part of that group. Even Jehovah was part of that group for some time. They did their own thing. They came down here and "played God" with us, and people worshipped them as "Gods" because they had this technology. They abused their power. The Germans were, in the 1930's, building rockets and starting a space program because of their contacts with extraterrestrials - the Gizeh intelligence. Technology was developed and used to create weapons, because the German governmental bodies involved were concerned that there was going to be an alien invasion. The Gizeh intelligence told them that the Greys were here. However, there was not an actual invasion, per se, in progress. Weapons, such as sound devices, lasers, neutron bombs, particle beam weapons were created, although many of these were actualized later on in history. The Germans were given a lot of this technology by the Gizeh intelligence. These technologies also included free energy devices and anti-gravity technology. Tripartite Interaction: US, USSR and Britain. The United States was the first to open its doors to the alien race known as the Greys. I have been told of a contact in 1934, wherein the Greys made their presence known to the United States government in Washington State. It wasn't until 1947 that actual contact occurred with the aliens and United States officials, due to the shooting down of an alien craft in Roswell, New Mexico. This pressed the Greys into contact earlier than they had anticipated. After this crash at Roswell in 1947 the United States, the Soviet Union and the British, at the very highest levels of government, became "blood-brothers". Now, these governments did not know what Germany was really up to at that time in history. The Germans were very very secretive about their contact with Gizeh intelligences. What was going on in Germany and what was going on between these other countries were two separate issues. The Roswell incident created more of an urgency to develop a true space program in order to defend the Earth. Again, the United States government and the Soviets thought that there was a threat due to the technologically advanced state of the aliens they had encountered. The true space program as an "underground" development that we are just now beginning to hear about. It was originally financed by members of the Club of Rome. Now, you will need to do some homework to find out who those members are, and don't be surprised at who you see. We'll talk more about that when we discuss the moon. The Greys assisted the "black government" with the building of some of the first facilities on the moon and Mars. Prior to all of this, between 1850 and 1950, there were instances of the mutilation of both cattle and humans. The NSA, which was created in the 1950's, knew that aliens were responsible. How they knew this, though, I have not been told. I will try and get more clarification on that. In 1952, the government prepared itself for the realization of ongoing alien contact. When our military radar systems started to bring down craft, the Greys realized that in order to perform their genetic experiments on such a large scale, in a attempt to genetically save their race, they would need the cooperation of a political body of a high caliber. In other words, they had to come to terms. A select body in the US was designed to be the liaison between the Greys and earth humans. The military was very enthusiastic, in the hope of exchanging raw materials for alien technology. This liaison group, the political structure, was the National Security Agency. This is what its original purpose was. The Agreement and Contract In May of 1954, the United States go-ernment made the agreement with an alien race. Some of the terms of this agreement featured the exchange of technology of anti-gravity, metals and alloys, environmental type technologies, free energy and medical technologies geared toward dealing with the human body. All the Greys asked for in return, they said, was to be allowed to study human development in terms of consciousness and emotional makeup, and to be allowed to stay here on Earth. The agreement took place at Holloman Air Force Base. This single act involving the signing of a "contract" with an extraterrestrial race was the most significant event in human history, because it launched mankind in a direction we were never intended to go in the first place. It also thrust us into a role that we were not prepared for, either, of being host to an alien race. This also essentially "handcuffed" the Andromedan Council, and those benevolent extra-terrestrial races from being able to take a more active role in our evolution. In effect, it has placed the burden squarely on the shoulders of humanity, to enlighten itself relative to the facts, and to consciously create ascension on an individual basis, because outside help was now unavailable. The particular treaty was agreed upon between these aliens and the Ultra unit in the NSA, which is in actuality a government unto itself. Now, pay close attention, because this is the first time I have ever mentioned this. The particular document and originally exchanged materials may be found today in the NSA facility called Blue Moon, underneath Kirkland Air Force base in New Mexico. The entrance to this base is in the Manzano mountains. Also, at this location is the private Department of Energy (D-E) technological base. Currently, the building of free energy devices for use in space is ongoing in this particular facility. Much of the alien technology has been reconstructed and sent, via a connecting tunnel, to Los Alamos and an area located underneath the cliffsides of Los Alamos canyon, where huge vaults are built into the earth. This facility is 29,000 square feet, and contains laboratories equipped to study light, thought, and pure energy. This facility is also used as a jail for aliens captured by black government factions. Now, the NSA is exempt from all laws in the United States, unless it is specifically mentioned in any creation of law. This is because of its interaction with alien species and what it sees as necessary intervention into the civil and constitutional rights of the American people. The Underground Network and Its Management Corporations that are currently assisting the various alien groups and the "black government" are: Standard Oil[exxon-mobil], Lockheed, Northrop, McDonald-Douglas, AT&T, IT&T, the A. Matthews Construction company, the Robbins Company, the Utah Mining Company, and a host of others. There was a great deal of private money used by the NSA to build alien technology, and to keep humanity under control, and the status quo secure. Even the CIA doesn't know a lot about money used by the NSA to build alien technology, and to keep humanity under control, and the status quo secure.The CIA also doesn't know a lot about the Ultra unit or the Blue Moon unit in the NSA, which deal with alien technology and information. Now, Alpha 1 and Alpha 2 (under Blue Moon) control compartmentalization, building and applications of alien technology. According to the Andromedans, Alpha 2 is MJ-12, and MJ-12 is at the bottom of the hierarchy, even though we are led to believe that it is at the top. Alpha 2 also controls the release of information and the security of that information. MJ-12 meets in a facility called the "country club" in the mountains of West Virginia. The "country club" is owned by the Rockefeller Foundation. The vital meetings are held underground, and the members of MJ-12 are taken via a small subway to the town of Warrington, Virginia. From there, they are taken to an underground city called "Ravenrock", which is located just south of the Blue Ridge summit in Pennsylvania. The effort and energy they put into keeping all of this secret is incredible. It's nice to know that a race 2.2 million light years away knows what is going on here. Most of the underground tunnel system across the United States is between 2,500 and 3,500 feet underground. The Boeing Aerospace Company built and created fuel batteries and power generators to operate this subterranean highway system that is apparently all across the United States. Apparently, in these fuel cells, they mix chlorine and hydrogen and electricity is created, as well as hydrogen chloride, which is then reseparated again into hydrogen and chlorine. The process continues forever, creating electricity forever. It never wears out, apparently. (JW I've never heard of that one before.) The planning and implementation for blueprints and designed for the tunnel connections underground was handled by the Navy. The National Research Council was responsible for the underground tunneling systems across the United States. The management of all these facilities is handled by the Department of Energy. Now, the machines that were built to create this underground tunnel system and the underground facilities were built by the Ja-va Corporation of Ohio, the Morrison-Knudson Company out of Boise, Idaho, and the Robbins Company in Washington State. Most of the financing for this program, and all of these facilities, has been done through the NSA. ~~~ Enjoy, I'm goin to bed ;0) [Edited by renots on 09-18-2000 at 01:11 AM] __________________ Damn. . . I think I'm watching too many x-files. . . spooky __________________ ~~~ The religions of the world, whether they realize it or not, promotes hatred against all non-Religious by subjecting us to their belief of 'Eternal Fire and Torment' if we do not believe in their god. This God of Fire whom they promote is obviously the self-fulfilled prophecy of the Beast. The Bible was correct about that symbolic title concerning the church, but by now we should realize that there is a beast in all of us. Are the Christians evil for believing in a god of such evil works? No, their intentions are good, they preach to us because they don't want anyone to go to hell. They were taught by other Christians to think that God created such a place, and were even told within the scriptures that they would not heed the warnings and would worship that God of Fear. But as 1 John 4:16 states, "God is Love", and as 1 John 4:18 further concludes, "there is no fear in love". I'm not against the good teachings of Christ that ARE found in the Christian religion. I'm against the bad ones, the ones that promote Fear. But if I only had one suggestion to give, it would be this: Don't believe anything that any man, book or religion tells you... just believe in yourself, believe in your own heart. If you are basing your whole understanding of God on the Bible alone, then read it again for the first time as if it were written metaphorically ONLY, and then you will finally see the secret language hidden within it, one that will speak directly to you. It is obvious that the "word of god" has been manipulated by all religions, and I don't want to do the same. Yet I would like to give my analogy of the true meaning of the Bible and Christianity, and let you decide for yourself if I'm onto something. As I look at the interpretations offered by most Christian denominations, I honestly think that mine contain a more positive meaning, which is far more important to the whole of humanity, not just to those who deem themselves 'special'. If you don't agree with the hundreds or thousands of examples I've given on this site, please consider at least thinking it through and studying it for yourself. Don't let someone give you pieces of the story and fill in the rest with their own ideas of what things mean. ~~~ :0) __________________ maybe they could just run the government off the revenue from advanced technology patents that the NSA is currently keeping secret NSA=National Secrets Agency ;0)

spigidygak is da man

I don't know where spigidygak gets all these deals, but he is da man and we all owe him... and all the companies should dread him... thanks a lot man... __________________ More like Sick! Jeeze Mon __________________ yeah... I'd say so... two thumbs up for spidygak! Thanks for the deals. ISH __________________ S-Gak, How do you do it? You went in for a neural ISDN implant didn't you? Thanks, Scott (Now scared of spigidygak the cyborg) __________________ Heheh, thanks for all the appreciation guys. But seriously. . . this is off topic heheh. Oh and for those that wonder where I "find" all these deals. . . lets just say I'm trying to make Got|Apex? The top of the deal sites. . . hehehe. Lil' spy action on my part.

school vouchers...

...should never take away funding from already chronically under-funded public schools. It should act as a bonus for attracting and keeping students federal school funding should NOT be linked to any curriculum. I say leave this to localities 20% of federal income[i.e. the taxes they recieve] should go back to students to spend on schooling, up though the 2nd year of college colleges should also have plenty of classes and lounges where older citizens could interact with the youngin's[linked to a well funded shuttle service for seniors] Student loans should be automatically dischargeble after 13 years[50% after7 years] as long as the loanee has no felonies in the previous 7 years :0)

I've never...

met a girl with a tattoo who was still a virgin. Is it too early to formulate a social theory? __________________ I've never met a virgin. J\K __________________ there is no way your a girl chosenfool. is there? hmmm I always pictured you as a guy. Now Nicemann, THERES A GIRL!! __________________ I was being sarcastic In case you did not know. I always pictured you as a guy also. Nicemann is a girl, No doubt. Hapoo and sigidygak are boarder line. __________________ hey theres nothing wrong with been in touch with your feminine side!!! j/k __________________ Quote: Originally posted by chosenfool spend maybe $8 for shipping (total cost of around $55) and go for a soundblaster Live! value series. It uses pretty much the same processor as the Live! MP3+, X-Gamer, and PLatinum, each just offering a different kind of software optimized for what its intended to do... heh! i was gonna offer to sell you a new unopened SB Live! X-Gamer, but you said you needed it cheap (doesnt get better than the Live! value series)... All I gotta say is that if you really are a girl, I'm in love __________________ Hell I wish I was a girl, then I wouldn't be spending $100 a week to the local girls for pleasure. They would be paying me. Hang on here....forget all that. ~NiceMann __________________ Quote: Originally posted by NiceMann Hell I wish I was a girl, then I wouldn't be spending $100 a week to the local girls for pleasure. They would be paying me. Hang on here....forget all that. ~NiceMann I wish i had money... __________________ Quote: Originally posted by chosenfool i am a girl and a virgin. ...but do you have a tattoo?? __________________ Tatooed virgins come out! __________________ Come to think of it, I guess you guys are right. I've never met a girl with permanent tattoo (not one of those sticker kind) and still is a V. __________________ There has to be one out there. __________________ I've never met a virgin that was still a virgin after she met me...hummmm __________________ First to claim "TattooedVirgin" SN is the winner of the booby prize. Blu __________________ niceman, might as well come on out and reveal your real identity

Building of The day 9/17/2000

Yes the Last was WTC, angle was kinda tricky eh? The Architect was: Minoru Yamasaki Here is todays: Name and Architect __________________ ;0) __________________ I don't like it all that much: FLW is neat but just doesn't turn me on: Marin Civic Center, by Frank Lloyd Wright, at San Rafael, California, 1957. [Edited by AmRivlin on 09-17-2000 at 01:38 PM] __________________ Ok I will leave it here till 10-12 tommorow then on to a new one. __________________ Is that part of the new Malaysian towers?? __________________ It is not the Petronas Towers and they are old... 3 years... ANyway it is part of the Hong Kong Bank 1990... I have class so I will come up with a new one ASAP

Oh renots. . .

Hehe, you know you want to post some more to get out of that magical 3 digit number .

Any chance...

...that some of the Apollo astronauts could have been MCs[Manchurian Candidates]? ;0) __________________ ...and Al Gore Too!

Hard Drives overheating

Ok guys I really need your help on this one, my IBM 7200rpm 18gig and my Maxtor 7200rpm 40gig drive are getting way too hot, it actually gets hotter than my overclocked cpu causing my computer to freeze (hehe doesn't really sound right). I was wondering if you guys could recomend a reasonably priced hard drive cooler and tell me where i could find it. Thanks ps - yes i am aware that this isn't the correct forum but as we all know this one gets more traffic than all the others __________________ Moderator please move this topic... hehehehe, more traffic what are you talking bout... It is only Renots and me in here. __________________ Lieutenant!! how dare you speak to me like that!!! I dont make too many threads, i'm sure the mods can let this one slide. plus this is the off-topic forum. I figure it can cover any subject. __________________ Arr.... That is SEP Lieutenant, if you want to address me do it correctly. __________________ Quote: Originally posted by hapoo I was wondering if you guys could recomend a reasonably priced hard drive cooler $Free: take the case side off ;0) __________________ Quote: Originally posted by renots Quote: Originally posted by hapoo I was wondering if you guys could recomend a reasonably priced hard drive cooler $Free: take the case side off ;0) Actually thats the worst thing i could do, It renders all the fans in the computer useless. __________________ ...destroy computer, do all computing in one's head, the Unabomber method! __________________ http://www.3dcool.com And I am insulted that i was not mentioned!! Renots and AmRivlin??? Who else has had their name as the last poster in every single thread on the first page of the Off-Topic forum?? That's right! ME!! I'm the king of Off-Topic!! __________________ finally a helpful post, thanks coleslaw __________________ I have the Triple Hard Drive Cooler, which is very nice. It was rather confusing trying to install a hard drive behind that thing, but eventually I figured it out. Twist-Ties come in very handy!! __________________ I just ordered the Ultimate hard drive cooler. It looks like the most effective thing. and if all goes well I just might write up a review for apex Since i've had my drive for about a month and its been baking the whole time i'm probably going to go and get another drive just like it and replace it so this one doesn't die on me. This is my Audio/Video drive so I can't risk all the data on here. __________________ Well, needless to say, if your system sill locks up, you know that it wasn't the hard drive! That thing would cool a female cat in heat! Best of luck!

Plextor.com hacked!

... but they fixed it. I tried going to their website this morning and was greeted by a cheesy porn site. I looked at the URL and wasn't sure if http://www.plextor.com was the addy so I went to google.com and typed in "Plextor website" and it returned http://www.plextor.com. Clicked on it again and sure enough the cheesy porn site again. Haha, they should at least apologize on their site __________________ Maybe you were typing flextore instead of plextor! hehe

Good Buds are hard to find

...but once you find them they are great! ;0) __________________ Are you familiar with the Gotmilk syndrome? __________________ Quote: Originally posted by AmRivlin Are you familiar with the Gotmilk syndrome? hey my entire poat was less than your sig ;0) __________________ ...they are hard to find. Imagine if you were in las vegas or cincinati how dry it would be [signing off from the very wet sanFrancisco ;0) __________________ Hey! I'm from Cincinnati!! __________________ Quote: Originally posted by coleslaw Hey! I'm from Cincinnati!! ;0) __________________ There are plenty of choices in California...YUMMY __________________ ;0) __________________ Quote: Originally posted by renots ;0) I really have...here at Got|Apex __________________ [this is the only one i need