As part of a four-team trade, the Los Angeles Lakers have traded forwards Glen Rice and Travis Knight to the New York Knicks in exchange for Horace Grant, Greg Foster, Chuck Person and Emanual Davis from the Seattle SuperSonics. __________________ Seattle wins, hands down. They have a pretty serious starting line-up to start the season, but more importantly, they get Ewing off the books at the end of the season, and then sign someone like CWebb for Payton's Last Run at the trophy. It's brilliant. 'Course, if they don't get Chris Webber or someone equivalent, they'll look like dolts. Ho Grant will be a major, major disappointment, and Rice, Sprewell, and Houston will all be choking each other by the All-Star break. Meanwhile, Phoenix...PHOENIX? They shipped out one useless white center for another, whiter, even less useful center! How the hell did they even get involved in that deal?__________________ Quote:
I must disagree wholeheartedly with this analysis. New York is the big winner here, with the Lakers also doing pretty well. New York finally gets rid of the old man and can focus on their new offensive scheme, which is to go smaller and faster with Houston and Sprewell (with a little Camby thrown in). With Rice the team finally brings a talented point guard who can direct an offense and give them an outside shooter. While chemistry might be an issue at first, I think Houston and Sprewell have matured much over the past couple years. Yes, there are egos here, but both players come across as intelligent and well spoken, and acknowledge that winning is everyone's common goal above all. Luc Longley is a great pick up as well. He has lots of postseason experience and is very familiar with the role that is needed from him, that is a supporting role in the center position instead of a go-to guy. His whole career has been setting up the more athletic small forwards and guards of the Bulls. I think having him underneath and Rice firing his threes will open things up for the New York offense, which is historically weak. In addition, New York is getting two first round and two second round draft picks over the next two seasons (not mentioned in the original post). Not too shabby. And I think Seattle is giving up at least some of these picks. I don't know what Seattle was smoking when they dealt for Ewing. They seem to be giving up the farm for a guy whose ready for the glue factory (Although I admit other than Greg Foster (whose no great loss to anyone) I don't know what kind of talent these guys getting dumped actually possess). __________________ i agree with zen. and horace grant i don't think will necessarily be a disappointment. i think he lost some of his focus when he went over to the sonics. now he'll be teamed back with his old coach, who knows how to use him better than anyone else. so i'm looking forward to the lakers winning another one!btw, is it me, or does it seem like we're becoming the LA bulls? but if we can get jordan back from retirement, i wouldn't care! __________________ Quote:
Vis a vis Luc Longley: did no-one see his game against Canada in Australia? Todd McCollough, a marginal center in Philly, absolutely man-handled him. In fact, he hasn't looked like he belongs in the league since his days with guess-who and whats-his-name. This guy, I promise you, is an updated Chris Dudley, with a higher FT percentage. However, if you take the picks into account, it gets a little better for New York. They get the Sonics' two second rounders. Assuming the Sonics make the playoffs as usual (not a stretch, considering they're line-up is a little better than before), one of those picks is sure to be in the last half of the second round, a gold-mine of top-flight talent, I'm sure you'll agree. If memory serves me correctly, I think the first is from LA. Yup, that's gonna be a high pick too  .The only way NY wins is if you consider that they've considerably upped their trade possibilities, and I'd be astonished if NY was finished dealing. Not only did they take on a boatload of cap filler, they now have three guys that play pretty much the same position, and two that play almost identical games (Rice and Houston). None are great distributors, so playing the three together sets the Knicks up for a dysfunctional offensive set, and only sprewell is really good in the open floor. So they're going to need a real Point guard, meaning one will have to sit. And I assume they aren't playing one of them 7-$10 mill to sit on the pine. New York loses this, bested only by those numbskulls in Phoenix. __________________ As far as Rice goes, guess I had a few too many pints while watching the playoffs last year! I still like him firing from the outside. Better to see him do it then Sprewell, who should give up the J's and just DRIVE and SLASH and DRIVE some more. He's got a few good years as a Jordan, Bryant style driving terror before he slows down and has to learn the finer nuances of working for his shot.As for Longley, its the off season, everyone knows the US will win the gold, so who gives a ****. He wouldn't be a pro if he sucked, and he'll be in shape or Alan and Latrell and the rest of the thugs will be on his ass you can be sure. And New York has a funny way of bringing the mean and aggressive out of people  . He's effective as long as he plays hard on D and stays out of the talent's way, like he did in Chicago. And I've certainly seen him have nights where he could come up big and spark the team.My point stands if only on the fact that New York is getting rid of the old Iron Horse. Much props to the man and his career, but it was obvious he could no longer be the man to carry the team, or fit in with the rest of the team's play. The Sonics gave too much for him, although it will probably free them to acquire new talent. __________________ Quote:
Longley will suck it up so huge next year, I promise. Apparently, you East Coasters don't stay up late enough to watch the Sportscenter that includes the west coast games: he's been a total dog in Phoenix. You do realize he was included in the deal in order to make contract room to get rid of Dudley and bring in Rice? It was the only way the contracts work, because Rice has BYC. He's not there because he's good, is what I'm saying... __________________ This whole trade is just useless. If Seattle hopes to win a title, Ewing isn't going to help them to do it. He won't be able to stop Shaq, and Seattle doesn't have the power forwards or the depth to stop Portland. Phoenix is just got completely screwed...why would anyone want Chris Dudley? The Lakers get Horace Grant, who replaces AC Green...Gee, what a replacement. They should have tried to grab Anthony Mason while they could. The Knicks just screwed team chemistry if you ask me. There isn't enough ball to go around in New York. By the All star break, Rice will be complaining about not enough shots again. If there is any positive in the trade, it would be all the draft pics that New York recieved. Even then, the pics won't be high and unless they happen to find a diamond in the rough it maybe a long rebuilding process.Blazers all the way!!! __________________ Quote:
Now that the 48 trade window is closed, I cannot figure out how Van Gundy is going to be able to work all three guys into the lineup. There just aren't enough shots. Don't forget LJ, Camby, and the rest of the team...they kinda like to shoot the ball too... __________________ new york's gonna run an experimental offense where you shoot the ball as soon as you touch it, or you drive and try to dunk on someone or get fouled. they're gonna take it all this yearMavi forum |
Wednesday, May 30, 2007
NBA 4-teams Trade
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