Thursday, May 24, 2007

How do you get UBB?

The espn message boards are just horrible, and it's pretty much the only place to get meaningful or thoughtful information on my home team (the Grizzlies...ok, you can stop laughing, we're gonna be good this year! Really!). So I wanted to start a low-traffic message board much like what Apex has got here. Is UBB a program, or...what the heck is it? Can anyone tell me how to get it or any other BBS-type program? Do you have to pay for this? Throw me a frickin' bone here, people!

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UBB costs $200, that's what I have. If you want to buy a UBB, would be nice to email me and let me give you a link. It's worth $30 in commission to me. I'd cut you back $15 of it.
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at least you don't live in DC pennypinch....
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You have to pay a yearly license according to the website... suckage. www.ultimatebb.com
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Originally posted by pennypinch:
If you remember the Steve Francis fiasco (another Terp, might I add, who would be better characterized as a Twerp)


i dont know where YOU went to college- but i will have gone to school with more NBA/future NBA players than many people around...

I belive we are preseason #5 in the country. so eat me

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Originally posted by AJ:
at least you don't live in DC pennypinch....


Hey, how many teams can say they have the greatest player that ever lived running the show. I guess it doesn't really help when you look at your team, though, huh...I heard we might sign Tracey Murray, but now that we got T-Mass today, that's looking less likely. I feel for ya, dogg, the Bullets/Wiz-ons do suck worse than the Grizz now.
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Originally posted by MaggieOK:
UBB costs $200, that's what I have. If you want to buy a UBB, would be nice to email me and let me give you a link. It's worth $30 in commission to me. I'd cut you back $15 of it.

If I do buy it, Maggie, I'll be sure to let you know. I like winning...this way we both win! Hurrah!

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Originally posted by pennypinch:
Hey, how many teams can say they have the greatest player that ever lived running the show. I guess it doesn't really help when you look at your team, though, huh...I heard we might sign Tracey Murray, but now that we got T-Mass today, that's looking less likely. I feel for ya, dogg, the Bullets/Wiz-ons do suck worse than the Grizz now.


I think we just got worse since MJ came to town...but its a cool thing to catch him in the box at games...I mean its not everyday you get to see a legend.

Plus- thats weird that you mention Tony Massenburg by T-Mass like you're super familiar ...The other day I was at a family gathering, and my uncle was telling me about how he was Tony Massenburg's dentist, since he practices in the U of Maryland area, and T was a Terp in college (like me )... i had NO IDEA who Tony Massenburg was, and I wasn't impressed when my uncle told me that he was trying to go back to the Grizzlies. i should have payed more attention

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you can always get a pirated version of ubb for free =P theres a ton of small sites w/ pirated ubb out there.. but if you are running a big site and your ubb is pirated.. you'll be doing the same thing as trying to sell store shelf software thats compiled w/ pirated msvs.. heheh..
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Originally posted by AJ:
Plus- thats weird that you mention Tony Massenburg by T-Mass like you're super familiar ...The other day I was at a family gathering, and my uncle was telling me about how he was Tony Massenburg's dentist, since he practices in the U of Maryland area, and T was a Terp in college (like me )... i had NO IDEA who Tony Massenburg was, and I wasn't impressed when my uncle told me that he was trying to go back to the Grizzlies. i should have payed more attention


What? Not paying attention to a relative at a family gathering?
TMass is one of the fondest adopted sons of Vancouver. If you remember the Steve Francis fiasco (another Terp, might I add, who would be better characterized as a Twerp), few players really enjoy playing in Canada, let alone Vancouver. But TMass not only loves Vancouver (was genuinely excited to be coming back) but played out of his mind last time he was here (before getting traded to Houston). Even if he doesn't play like that again, he's a fan favorite, a great guy in the locker, and a piller in the community. There aren't enough guys like Tony Massenburg on any team. He's what's right about pro sports, end of story.
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Originally posted by AJ:
i dont know where YOU went to college- but i will have gone to school with more NBA/future NBA players than many people around...

I belive we are preseason #5 in the country. so eat me



I'll have you know, Mr. I-have-seen-some-future-NBA'ers-so-I'm-a-baller-by-association, that my Pomona Fighting Sagehens could probably be beaten by a decent high school team. Meanwhile, you have the dubious honour of producing perhaps the WORST 1st overall pick of all time, Mr. Smith. So eat that, Twerp.

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How do you get UBB? Here's a hint: YOU DON'T. IT SUCKS. Get something built on a database instead of CGI. You'll thank me later.

This reminds me, we're moving formats. There are two in the running. *sigh* difficult decision though. Do we go to one that looks almost like this but is much much faster and can import all the UBB stuff (accounts, messages, etc), OR do we go to fusetalk which is also faster and looks much better, but cannot import stuff?
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From a growth standpoint, I say go with the one that can't import but is faster and better looking. Most of the archives are dead deals anyway and 99% of the gotapex visitors wouldn't mind reregistering.

JMO.
Maggie
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Originally posted by Apex:
How do you get UBB? Here's a hint: YOU DON'T. IT SUCKS. Get something built on a database instead of CGI. You'll thank me later.

This reminds me, we're moving formats. There are two in the running. *sigh* difficult decision though. Do we go to one that looks almost like this but is much much faster and can import all the UBB stuff (accounts, messages, etc), OR do we go to fusetalk which is also faster and looks much better, but cannot import stuff?


Frankly, I don't think the fusetalk bells and whistles are all that great. If you can import all the data here, like old forum topics which I use all the time, and stiff use less system resources, I'd say go with that. There's nothing wrong with the look here, whatsoever. Thanks for the tip. How much are the systems you're looking at. Let's remember this is a really low-traffic use we're talking about...

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If there's something better than UBB then bring it on Apex!

"Just bring it."
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Originally posted by pennypinch:
The espn message boards are just horrible, and it's pretty much the only place to get meaningful or thoughtful information on my home team (the Grizzlies...ok, you can stop laughing, we're gonna be good this year! Really!). So I wanted to start a low-traffic message board much like what Apex has got here. Is UBB a program, or...what the heck is it? Can anyone tell me how to get it or any other BBS-type program? Do you have to pay for this? Throw me a frickin' bone here, people!


If you want a low traffic message board with UBB, you can always go with ezboard
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Originally posted by Apex:
This reminds me, we're moving formats. There are two in the running. *sigh* difficult decision though. Do we go to one that looks almost like this but is much much faster and can import all the UBB stuff (accounts, messages, etc), OR do we go to fusetalk which is also faster and looks much better, but cannot import stuff?


Frankly, I don't like how fusetalk looks. Maybe it will grow on me if I had to use it. What is the other one? I'd like to take a look
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I've seen many different types of message boards out there. UBB is the most widely used. But UBB has some problems. The main problem with UBB is that the more messages and threads posted the more unstable it gets. That's why increasingly you see error messages popping up here with more frequency. Yes UBB's stability has gone up with newer versions but it still isn't as good as competing bbs solutions. Another problem is that UBB is more easily hacked. (no I didn't do this).

Fusetalk is fast and has some nice preferences you can set. Like how many messages you see in a thread and being able to change some of the colors of the bbs according to your wishes. But fusetalk seems a bit sterile in my view. I miss being able to click next newest topic or next oldest topic to go to a neighboring thread in a fusetalk bbs. This helps out when your on a massive posting spree. The fusetalk developers also need to do something about that the bright background where replys are. (Yes people have complained about it before and no you can't change that color).

What's the second format your considering Apex?

Arstechnica's bbs uses Opentopic which is by the same company that makes UBB. Opentopic is more stable, can have more messages without any problem and is faster than UBB. Opentopic however is more expensive.

This recently started bbs by some anandtechers uses vBulletin.

Finally Apex my advice is when you make the switch get the new bbs up as soon as possible! When AGN3D when it switched from UBB to fusetalk last October it was down for days. Then even when it went back up the link pointed to the old bbs. The result was this caused some membership not to come back. I only found out about the bbs being up by someone sending me an email.

It also would be nice to have some warning when the changeover is going to be done. So people won't wonder what's going on (was the bbs hacked? did it crash?) And people can save their user profile and brag about how many posts they had back in the good old days on the old bbs.

And remember even after switching some people are going to be moaning that they liked the old bbs better. Just be prepared for it. Or just send Darth to have a little talk with them. haha

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Originally posted by Apex:
How do you get UBB? Here's a hint: YOU DON'T. IT SUCKS. Get something built on a database instead of CGI. You'll thank me later.

This reminds me, we're moving formats. There are two in the running. *sigh* difficult decision though. Do we go to one that looks almost like this but is much much faster and can import all the UBB stuff (accounts, messages, etc), OR do we go to fusetalk which is also faster and looks much better, but cannot import stuff?



I vote to have a look like this because this i consider kinda unique to GotApex. Fusetalk is fun but I like the clean look of this forum

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