More philosophy, telekinesis?

well clueless, i guess like qigong. although i've never really had a name to put on it. one of my instructors introduced me to the concept. he has studied much with the body's chi and showed me ways to project it. i've used it on myself numerous times from after sparring matches to volleyball games on the beach. other than myself, however, i have only successfully used it on two other people - after tournements. so, i'm convinced that that the body's chi exists and that we can focus it, but i'm still filled with too much doubt at this point to move up from healing to anything else. and, doubt as we know is the barrier that inhibits the flow of our minds. any particular reason you don't think you could do it? __________________ and att, not telepathy young jedi; we know that weak minds are easily influenced. __________________ following renots philosophy thread... anyone ever consider the extensive ability of the mind or our energy? i've had success using the body's energy for healing, primarily with injuries from martial art training, but i'm wondering if anyone has had success with extending this to influence other objects. or if anyone has any thoughts on it or has even considered it. __________________ healing eh? QiGong? I wanted to learn that but not sure if i ever can succeed. ------------------ ~Reality is an illusion~ __________________ i have had some success in my younger days getting women to throw themselves at my feet. just send $29.95 and i'll send you a pamphlet explaining how. __________________ Which martial arts is it that teaches you chi? That would be a very useful tool for speeding the natural healing process. I don't suppose you have any references? I myself haven't witnessed or know anybody that has influenced objects, but i think it probably exists within the laws of the universe. Do u believe in God and/or the Devil? [This message has been edited by Argghman (edited 07-31-2000).] [This message has been edited by Argghman (edited 07-31-2000).] __________________ most of the martial arts teach of the body’s energy (chi, ki, etc. the name depends on what art/culture you’re studying, but the concept is the same). gung fu, t’ai chi, akido, tae kwon do, hapkido... personally, i don’t have a broad enough knowledge base on lots of martial arts to give you a comprehensive list. sang , an instructor I used to study with, practiced primarily t’ai chi and tkd; and he’s been my most influential instructor, at least spiritually. it is amazing what you are capable of with the focus of your chi. like i said, i’ve only had experience with speeding up my healing process; well that and breaking bricks as for references on learning more? i could recommend a dozen books to read, but in order to truly begin to understand it, my advice would be for you to find a good (meaning modest, mindful, compassionate and spiritually pure) instructor to begin studying under - which isn’t easy in western society. which art you chose depends on your goals, physically and mentally. I agree with your belief that external focusing of chi exists in the laws of the universe, just watch a documentary on the shao lin monks and that’ll cure any doubts. next question, i see god as a universal energy binding everything together. so, i believe in god, yes, but not in the devil. paradoxical, hmmm? __________________ quote: Originally posted by target: well clueless, i guess like qigong. although i've never really had a name to put on it. one of my instructors introduced me to the concept. he has studied much with the body's chi and showed me ways to project it. i've used it on myself numerous times from after sparring matches to volleyball games on the beach. other than myself, however, i have only successfully used it on two other people - after tournements. so, i'm convinced that that the body's chi exists and that we can focus it, but i'm still filled with too much doubt at this point to move up from healing to anything else. and, doubt as we know is the barrier that inhibits the flow of our minds. any particular reason you don't think you could do it? Yea I want to learn QiGong to focus chi to heal myself quicker. Hmm i don't suppose you can email me a quick little tutorial on how to do it would u? ------------------ ~Reality is an illusion~ __________________ quote: Originally posted by CluelessSi: Yea I want to learn QiGong to focus chi to heal myself quicker. Hmm i don't suppose you can email me a quick little tutorial on how to do it would u? i've got a fairly good introductory book at home that gets into breathing exercises, acupressure and the bodies energy channels. but, i'm at work now and can't remember the exact title or author. i'll check for you when i get home. __________________ Thanx =) I have seen many books but problem is that they are in chinese =( quote: Originally posted by target: i've got a fairly good introductory book at home that gets into breathing exercises, acupressure and the bodies energy channels. but, i'm at work now and can't remember the exact title or author. i'll check for you when i get home. __________________ quote: Originally posted by CluelessSi: Thanx =) I have seen many books but problem is that they are in chinese =( alrighty clueless, i can guarantee that this one isn't in chinese the ki process: korean secrets for cultivating dynamic energy by scott shaw isbn:0877288798 some of the illustrations are lacking but most of the book is a pretty good star. __________________ Man Grand Symbol of the Mysteries, Thoughts In Occult Anatomy by Manly P. Hall has a really good chapter on the pineal gland, i.e. the eye of the gods, the holiest of holies, the third eye, etc. I got a big fat copy of of Secret Teachings of All Ages signed by the man himself. :0) __________________ To learn is to live, to study is to grow, and growth is the measurement of life. The mind must be taught to think, the heart to feel, and the hands to labor. When these have been educated to their highest point, then is the time to offer them to the service of their fellowman, not before Manly P. Hall __________________ http://deoxy.org/gnosis10.htm The Ten Major Principles of the Gnostic Revelation From Exegesis, by Philip K. Dick The Gnostic Christians of the second century believed that only a special revelation of knowledge rather than faith could save a person. The contents of this revelation could not be received empirically or derived a priori. They considered this special gnosis so valuable that it must be kept secret. Here are the ten major principles of the gnostic revelation: 1.The creator of this world is demented. 2.The world is not as it appears, in order to hide the evil in it, a delusive veil obscuring it and the deranged deity. 3.There is another, better realm of God, and all our efforts are to be directed toward a.returning there b.bringing it here 4.Our actual lives stretch thousands of years back, and we can be made to remember our origin in the stars. 5.Each of us has a divine counterpart unfallen who can reach a hand down to us to awaken us. This other personality is the authentic waking self; the one we have now is asleep and minor. We are in fact asleep, and in the hands of a dangerous magician disguised as a good god, the deranged creator deity. The bleakness, the evil and pain in this world, the fact that it is a deterministic prison controlled by the demented creator causes us willingly to split with the reality principle early in life, and so to speak willingly fall asleep in delusion. 6.You can pass from the delusional prison world into the peaceful kingdom if the True Good God places you under His grace and allows you to see reality through His eyes. 7.Christ gave, rather than received, revelation; he taught his followers how to enter the kingdom while still alive, where other mystery religions only bring about amnesis: knowledge of it at the "other time" in "the other realm," not here. He causes it to come here, and is the living agency to the Sole Good God (i.e. the Logos). 8.Probably the real, secret Christian church still exists, long underground, with the living Corpus Christi as its head or ruler, the members absorbed into it. Through participation in it they probably have vast, seemingly magical powers. 9.The division into "two times" (good and evil) and "two realms" (good and evil) will abruptly end with victory for the good time here, as the presently invisible kingdom separates and becomes visible. We cannot know the date. [That would be no fun :0)] 10.During this time period we are on the sifting bridge being judged according to which power we give allegiance to, the deranged creator demiurge of this world or the One Good God and his kingdom, whom we know through Christ [consciousness]. To know these ten principles of Gnostic Christianity is to court disaster. (now he tells us?) :0) __________________ [removes hands from eyes] Nope[/removes hands from eyes